Re: [wc] Re: am I crazy to go to London in October?

Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:19:09 -0700

See now I am hearing something that is a little less jarring to me... By saying:
"again not everyone they arrested may be involved, and there are probably other people
not arrested who are involved" it sounds to me that you are open to the fact that everyone arrested might not deserve to be jailed for the rest of their life.  I felt like you had already locked them up and thrown away the key (in your mind). and it seemed to me to be too early for that.
I felt like you had a knee jerk reaction and was wondering if you really felt that sure of all the details and the punishement that they all deserved.
That was my whole issue.
Daria

 
On 8/14/06, Ellen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think maybe it depends on if there are suspects--again not everyone
they arrested may be involved, and there are probably other people
not arrested who are involved, but they (whoever is in charge of
this) seems to have a pretty good idea of who did this. Didn't they
not have Islamic suspects in Oklahoma City? It seemed to be a case
of trends or whatever--similar things were caused by Islamic
terrorists previously, so statistically it was likely that they would
do this, but they didn't have any evidence. With London they really
seem to have evidence.



--- In [email protected], "Daria Akers"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Do you ever wonder if you have enough information to make a
decision about a
> case like that? I read a lot and last week when this whole
terrorist plot
> was coming out of the UK I just felt like I didn't have enough
information
> to make a decision about guilt or innocence. I try to not rush to
judgement
> about people without know the details. I understand that you may
not feel
> the need for all the details but I don't believe everything that I
hear.
> Especially in the first few days after something like this. I
remember when
> the Murrow Federal Building in Ok was blown up the first thing that
was said
> was it was Islamic terrorists... we often jump to conclusions.
>
>
> On 8/14/06, Ellen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > because I often believe someone is guilty even after the trial
has
> > proven them not guilty, so the outcome of the trial doesn't always
> > have much impact on how I feel about the case. Like in the case of
> > the guy who they are accusing of killing his wife and kid in their
> > house--if he's found not guilty I'm still gonna definitely still
> > think he did it.
> >
> > --- In [email protected]<weingartenchatters%
40yahoogroups.com>,

> > "Daria Akers"
> >
> > <daria.akers@> wrote:
> > >
> > > WOOOOHOOOO Yes... that is all we wanted. It is the semantics of
the
> > > argument. It's all about splitting hairs and doing it with great
> > > passion. All the while knowing people here will still laugh at
your
> > jokes.
> > > Got to love community.
> > > Daria
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/14/06, Ellen <ellengoodman6@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK that was DEFINITELY the wrong choice of words, which is
> > probably
> > > > the root of the confusion. You don't need a trial to BELIEVE
> > someone
> > > > is guilty. My fault, sorry.
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected]<weingartenchatters%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > <weingartenchatters%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> >
> > > > "dvm8375"
> > > >
> > > > <muellerdana@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In America you do.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In
[email protected]<weingartenchatters%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > <weingartenchatters%
> > 40yahoogroups.com >,
> >
> > > > "Ellen"
> > > > > <ellengoodman6@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm getting the impression that they have good reason to
> > believe
> > > > > the
> > > > > > majority of them are guilty. Sorry, I'm convinced. You
don't
> > > > > need a
> > > > > > trial to prove someone is guilty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In
[email protected]<weingartenchatters%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > <weingartenchatters%
> > 40yahoogroups.com >,
> > > > "denisesudell"
> > > > > > <dsudell7781@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In
> > [email protected] <weingartenchatters%
40yahoogroups.com>
> > <weingartenchatters%
> > 40yahoogroups.com >,
> >
> > > > "Ellen"
> > > > > <ellengoodman6@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Those people they arrested should rot in hell. . . .
Yes
> > it's
> > > > > > > possible they arrested some people that were innocent,
but
> > I am
> > > > > > > certain they aren't all innocent. . . . This is sick and
> > these
> > > > > people
> > > > > > > deserve whatever is coming to them."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Boy, if I ever get arrested and charged with a crime, I
hope
> > > > you
> > > > > don't
> > > > > > > serve on the jury.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ever hear of "innocent until proven guilty"?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>


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