It's been my experience that a lot of colleges do bring students to the table (ok, so maybe it's a token seat, but still a seat/voice.) My university did bring students into the process...We had a student member of the state board of higher education (who could vote...the faculty member of the state board could not) and we had a student on the presidential search committee. They also held "town hall meeting" type events fror students, where those who had an interest could come meet, address, and ask questions of the candidates. It was an official part of the campus interview process. I believe the student government leaders had one-on-one meetings with each candidate as well.
This was a decent-sized state institution, in the midwest, and for the most part, we'd always had good relations between students and the administration.
That all said, I agree with Amy, perhaps things are
different in the deaf community? Certainly, I can see how it would be important to some at Gallaudet that their president be fully immersed and aware of deaf culture...perhaps part of the disagreement is the degree to which the incoming president is or is not immersed/aware/etc?
algriner1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What bothers me as an outsider viewing this situation, is that the
students appear, in part, angry because they were not included in the
process to select the new president. Now, I went to a fine
institution of higher learning (University of Nebraska, where the Big
Red "N" on the side of the football stadium stands for "Nowledge").
While I was in attendance, we had a selection process for a new
President (or Chancellor, I don't remember which, but for this
situation it doesn't matter). As a student I did not agree with the
choice. I was VEHEMENTLY opposed. I was in Environmental Studies,
involved in Ecology Now, helped start putting recycling bins in all
the buildings, that sort of thing. The guy tapped was partially
selected because of his closeness to certain companies that would
funnel money to the school for agricultural research, specifically
research to develop and promote genetically modified seeds and
crops. Yeah, I had a problem with that. LOTS of students had a
problem with that.
Did we have a say, as students, in the selection process? No. The
selection was the responsibility of the Board of Regents. They
reviewed applicants, interviewed, and selected. No input from the
student body at all. Of course, that's just how it was. Their job
was to make sure the school functioned, our job was to study, learn,
become adults, and graduate. We all did our job. School went on.
The Gallaudet situation is troublesome because it appears that the
students are complaining because they didn't get to pick the
president or didn't have a voice in the selection. Guess
what...that's the way universities function. Get over it. Quit
whining and move on. It just smacks of too much of an expectation of
getting exactly what you want, all the time.
Maybe I'm being too harsh...maybe things are different in the deaf
community. I don't know. But I know of NO other university where
the students have an active part of a selection process of such a
position at the school. Why should it be different at Gallaudet?
--- In weingartenchatters@yahoogroups. , "Ellen"com
<ellengoodman6@...> wrote:
>
> thanks, that was my impression, but it isn't clear what the
> protesting are hoping will happen, other than the incoming
president
> be ousted. Many people president-age learned ASL as adults, as
> you're saying. That's not their fault--at least they know it.
Isn't
> that better than not knowing it? How do the protesters know anyone
> else would be any better? To at least this outsider, both
culturally
> and geographically, they appear to be overreacting, but who knows.
> Out of hand because if the school is shut down I would think that
> would be most people's definition of out of hand. But they could
> just be thinking OK the protesters won because they forced us to
shut
> the school. Are they happy now? I hope this gets resolved soon
and
> that it isn't the beginning of the end of Gallaudet.
>
>
> --- In weingartenchatters@yahoogroups. , "Daria Akers"com
> <daria.akers@> wrote:
> >
> > It depends on what is out of hand. I will give you what I
understand
> > but I am not deaf so I in now way want to speak for those who are
> but
> > I am very interested in deaf culture so I might have some insight
to
> > offer.
> > The first deaf president of Gallaudet (I. King Jordan) was
ushered
> in
> > on the back of protests. That was almost 18 years ago. Now he is
> upset
> > at this one...seems odd to me.
> > There are many different issues. Some believe that the cultural
> > diversity of the student body is not being considered enough
> > (representatives on the Board and in school officials), some
people
> > say that there is discrimination on campus, some people think the
> new
> > president is a bad representative for the deaf community, some
think
> > that she isn't a strong leader.
> > The deaf community has changed significantly in the last few
> decades.
> > It used to be that in the 50s and 60s deaf people would learn to
lip
> > read and attempted to integrate into the non-deaf community by
> > learning to talk. Many deaf people never even used ASL (American
> Sign
> > Language). Older generations are looked at sometimes viewed by
young
> > deaf people like black people who used to pass as whites. Like
they
> > weren't proud or accepting of who they were. Now most deaf people
> > learn ASL and request interpreters to talk to non-deaf people.
The
> new
> > president didn't learn ASL until she was in her 20s.
> > So that's my 2 cents (okay more like 50 but...)
> > Daria
> >
> >
> > On 10/12/06, Ellen <ellengoodman6@> wrote:
> > > Can someone please fill me in on the Gallaudet situation?
> >
>
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