For all I know Fernandes would be a terrible president. I don't know anything about her. I was just sharing the discussion with you because I thought it was interesting. I didn't mean to open a can of worms, although obviously I did. I didn't realize congress has some say in Gallaudet, since that is the case it means it gets tax dollars directly. So as a taxpayer I do have a stake in this. Most schools get some government money from grants or whatever, but not direct congressional involvement like this. Not exactly sure what the relationship is. I know there is a huge diversity in the deaf community, but that being the case I do think some deaf people are too judgemental of other deaf people's choices of lipreading or cochlear implants or whatever. I think it should be a personal choice. This is just the conclusion I drew from reading about this particular situation. I didn't have any opinion about this before. I was letting this go but I really wanted to hear a student's perspective and then I saw there was a chat about it so I was interested in what she had to say. The news can report what is happening, but only a student can explain why it is happening, and we hadn't gotten much of that, at least here outside of DC since I don't get the local TV news. I just think there are other ways to resolve this without shutting down the school. One of the posters mentioned that most schools don't let the students choose the president, and the student said something about shared governance. I don't know if that was something they were promised or just something they want. Are they really fighting to maintain their culture? I didn't realize that was the issue. Do you think shutting down the school and risk dropping out is the answer?
--- In [email protected], "Maureen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ellen - i'm trying to understand why you are so negative and > judgemental about an issue that you have absolutely no stake in! In > fact, i've found your assumptions and prejudegment of deaf people, > when you clearly don't know any, offensive and extrodinarily narrow > minded - so much so that you refuse to entertain any other opinion > but your own! i have a deaf friend and, trust me, she is quite the > opposite of everything you pretend to know about them. In fact, she > and a blind friend had quite a nice chat once at a get-together. > Does that shock you? i know i sound exasperated but you just won't > let this go. this is what my friend said about your comments and > the galludet situation... > > "Some deaf people simply can't learn to lipread well-- even the best > lipreaders have to guess 40-70% of what the other person is saying. > Yeah, most deaf people learn to lipread one phrase-- "can you > lipread?" That's not the same as following a real conversation. > > Also, there are many colors of deaf. I don't think it's right to > label all deaf people with a single brushstroke-- deaf can encompass > all levels of hearing loss, stages of life, cultures, and > experiences. But one thing they all have in common is that they > CANNOT hear well enough to follow speech clearly. > > And it's not about Jane as being "too hearing." Her mother is an > staunch oralist who is anti-sign and Jane walked into the deaf and > signing community at age 22. IKJ became deaf at age 20 in a > motorcycle accident. It made him more serious about his future as > well. > > It's about a lot of concerns about Jane being unfit to lead. > > Even the priest who gave me my first communion, (deaf Catholic > priest) wrote in saying that he had known Jane in Hawaii and wasn't > impressed when he heard she was elected to lead Gallaudet but > trusted to God that it'd be OK. Now he's not so sure. > Many other deaf people I have met and are certain would not > prejudge a person for growing up oralist or hearing have their own > concerns as well." > > so clearly, you just don't understand the situation, nor will you > ever understand as a hearing person with no attachements to the > conflict. i think it's admirable that these student are fighting so > hard to maintain their culture, et al! I implore you to open your > mind... how "disabled" can they be if they can shut down a whole > campus? does it really matter to you how "unreasonable" they are > being? does it impact your life in any way? is there anything you > are willing to fight this hard for? think about it. > > --- In [email protected], "Ellen" > <ellengoodman6@> wrote: > > > > Here is an washingtonpost.com online discussion with a Gallaudet > > student whom I guess is leading the protests or something: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- > > dyn/content/discussion/2006/10/18/DI2006101800565.html > > or > > http://tinyurl.com/ydk6bd > > > > everyone's questions to her seem quite similar to mine, so > apparently > > I'm not alone in my opinion. Does ANYONE think the students are > being > > even SLIGHTLY unreasonable? I haven't read the information in the > link > > that was posted, but just from the chat I still think they are > > overreacting but who knows? > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/weingartenchatters/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/weingartenchatters/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
