WHAT WOULD JETER DO????   ARRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH.

--- In [email protected], hjrobinson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm sorry, I was unclear.  I didn't mean to say your opinion was
> irrelevant.  I meant to say it was worthless.
> 
> On 10/20/06, Ellen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   Of COURSE my opinion has no bearing on what happens at 
Gallaudet. I
> > never said it did. What I think is irrelevant to what ultimately
> > happens there. That doesn't change the fact that I'm entitled to 
an
> > opinion, and in addition my opinion jives with about 80% of the
> > people who posted to the chat with the student. So if I'm being an
> > obnoxious jerk about this, which I don't think I am but if I'm
> > entitled to an opinion you certainly are also, then probably the
> > majority of everyone that is following this story is also. If
> > students were protesting my presidency of Yeshiva University and
> > shutting down the school, Derek Jeter's opinion would be 
irrelevant,
> > although he would be more than welcome to have one. But that 
doesn't
> > mean that shutting down the school to protest the president would 
be
> > OK. I don't think this is just about Gallaudet. I think it about
> > whether these sorts of means justify the ends in any situation.
> >
> > --- In [email protected]<weingartenchatters%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Hannah Robinson"
> >
> > <hjrobinson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Let's try a thought experiment. If the students at Yeshiva
> > University
> > > were protesting that a person who did not believe in the right 
of
> > > existence of the State of Israel was appointed president 
despite the
> > > vocal objections of both the student body AND the faculty AND 
the
> > > alumni, would that be acceptable to protest?
> > >
> > > What if Derek Jeter was walking around, telling the students 
that
> > > they're overreacting. Is his opinion at all valid? Does he have
> > any
> > > understanding what it means to be a Zionist?
> > >
> > > What if they wanted to appoint as president of Howard a light-
> > skinned
> > > black man who had been able to 'pass' at will in his life, and 
had
> > > chosen do so.
> > >
> > > Do you think Dale Earnhardt, Jr.'s opinion of the situation has 
any
> > > value to the discussion? Do you think that maybe his opinion is
> > > essentially worthless?
> > >
> > > Now before you think I've compared you to an authoritarian 
idiot,
> > calm
> > > down. My point is that you, as a member of the hearing community
> > with
> > > no connection and no understanding of the deaf community, are 
making
> > > judgements about issues which you do not understand. Your 
opinion
> > is
> > > as valid as Dale Earnhardt's.
> > >
> > > Ask questions all you want, that's a good thing. I'm glad you 
ask
> > > them because then *I* learn things I never would have. But 
please,
> > I
> > > beg of you, grow up, and learn to back off when you've made an
> > > ill-considered remark. Stop making us forfeit in these 
discussions
> > > because we can't stand throwing ourselves at the brick wall of 
your
> > > stubborn ignorance.
> > >
> > > On 10/19/06, Ellen <ellengoodman6@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Here is an washingtonpost.com online discussion with a 
Gallaudet
> > > > student whom I guess is leading the protests or something:
> > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-
> > > > dyn/content/discussion/2006/10/18/DI2006101800565.html
> > > > or
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/ydk6bd
> > > >
> > > > everyone's questions to her seem quite similar to mine, so
> > apparently
> > > > I'm not alone in my opinion. Does ANYONE think the students 
are
> > being
> > > > even SLIGHTLY unreasonable? I haven't read the information in
> > the link
> > > > that was posted, but just from the chat I still think they are
> > > > overreacting but who knows?
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>





 
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