Do you need stitches, Hannah?
--- In [email protected], "Ellen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of COURSE my opinion has no bearing on what happens at Gallaudet. I > never said it did. What I think is irrelevant to what ultimately > happens there. That doesn't change the fact that I'm entitled to an > opinion, and in addition my opinion jives with about 80% of the > people who posted to the chat with the student. So if I'm being an > obnoxious jerk about this, which I don't think I am but if I'm > entitled to an opinion you certainly are also, then probably the > majority of everyone that is following this story is also. If > students were protesting my presidency of Yeshiva University and > shutting down the school, Derek Jeter's opinion would be irrelevant, > although he would be more than welcome to have one. But that doesn't > mean that shutting down the school to protest the president would be > OK. I don't think this is just about Gallaudet. I think it about > whether these sorts of means justify the ends in any situation. > > > > --- In [email protected], "Hannah Robinson" > <hjrobinson@> wrote: > > > > Let's try a thought experiment. If the students at Yeshiva > University > > were protesting that a person who did not believe in the right of > > existence of the State of Israel was appointed president despite the > > vocal objections of both the student body AND the faculty AND the > > alumni, would that be acceptable to protest? > > > > What if Derek Jeter was walking around, telling the students that > > they're overreacting. Is his opinion at all valid? Does he have > any > > understanding what it means to be a Zionist? > > > > What if they wanted to appoint as president of Howard a light- > skinned > > black man who had been able to 'pass' at will in his life, and had > > chosen do so. > > > > Do you think Dale Earnhardt, Jr.'s opinion of the situation has any > > value to the discussion? Do you think that maybe his opinion is > > essentially worthless? > > > > Now before you think I've compared you to an authoritarian idiot, > calm > > down. My point is that you, as a member of the hearing community > with > > no connection and no understanding of the deaf community, are making > > judgements about issues which you do not understand. Your opinion > is > > as valid as Dale Earnhardt's. > > > > Ask questions all you want, that's a good thing. I'm glad you ask > > them because then *I* learn things I never would have. But please, > I > > beg of you, grow up, and learn to back off when you've made an > > ill-considered remark. Stop making us forfeit in these discussions > > because we can't stand throwing ourselves at the brick wall of your > > stubborn ignorance. > > > > On 10/19/06, Ellen <ellengoodman6@> wrote: > > > > > > Here is an washingtonpost.com online discussion with a Gallaudet > > > student whom I guess is leading the protests or something: > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- > > > dyn/content/discussion/2006/10/18/DI2006101800565.html > > > or > > > http://tinyurl.com/ydk6bd > > > > > > everyone's questions to her seem quite similar to mine, so > apparently > > > I'm not alone in my opinion. Does ANYONE think the students are > being > > > even SLIGHTLY unreasonable? I haven't read the information in > the link > > > that was posted, but just from the chat I still think they are > > > overreacting but who knows? > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/weingartenchatters/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/weingartenchatters/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
