what is the difference? And anyway you did say worthless, not irrelevant. I thought they were synonyms sort of, but maybe not. Guess it depends on the context. I think George Bush should be impeached. Is my opinion on this worthless? Probably irrelevant, since my thinking that will have no bearing on whether he is or not. I don't think I know any less about the Gallaudet situation than anyone else who is watching or reading the news stories about it who isn't deaf. Anyway, you never know if someone you know will have a deaf child or become deaf later in life or whatever. So it could affect anyone you know. So I would want to know whether the only deaf university in the world is a place I would want someone I know to go. At the moment to be honest it isn't. Is that opinion worthless too?
--- In [email protected], hjrobinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm sorry, I was unclear. I didn't mean to say your opinion was > irrelevant. I meant to say it was worthless. > > On 10/20/06, Ellen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Of COURSE my opinion has no bearing on what happens at Gallaudet. I > > never said it did. What I think is irrelevant to what ultimately > > happens there. That doesn't change the fact that I'm entitled to an > > opinion, and in addition my opinion jives with about 80% of the > > people who posted to the chat with the student. So if I'm being an > > obnoxious jerk about this, which I don't think I am but if I'm > > entitled to an opinion you certainly are also, then probably the > > majority of everyone that is following this story is also. If > > students were protesting my presidency of Yeshiva University and > > shutting down the school, Derek Jeter's opinion would be irrelevant, > > although he would be more than welcome to have one. But that doesn't > > mean that shutting down the school to protest the president would be > > OK. I don't think this is just about Gallaudet. I think it about > > whether these sorts of means justify the ends in any situation. > > > > --- In [email protected]<weingartenchatters% 40yahoogroups.com>, > > "Hannah Robinson" > > > > <hjrobinson@> wrote: > > > > > > Let's try a thought experiment. If the students at Yeshiva > > University > > > were protesting that a person who did not believe in the right of > > > existence of the State of Israel was appointed president despite the > > > vocal objections of both the student body AND the faculty AND the > > > alumni, would that be acceptable to protest? > > > > > > What if Derek Jeter was walking around, telling the students that > > > they're overreacting. Is his opinion at all valid? Does he have > > any > > > understanding what it means to be a Zionist? > > > > > > What if they wanted to appoint as president of Howard a light- > > skinned > > > black man who had been able to 'pass' at will in his life, and had > > > chosen do so. > > > > > > Do you think Dale Earnhardt, Jr.'s opinion of the situation has any > > > value to the discussion? Do you think that maybe his opinion is > > > essentially worthless? > > > > > > Now before you think I've compared you to an authoritarian idiot, > > calm > > > down. My point is that you, as a member of the hearing community > > with > > > no connection and no understanding of the deaf community, are making > > > judgements about issues which you do not understand. Your opinion > > is > > > as valid as Dale Earnhardt's. > > > > > > Ask questions all you want, that's a good thing. I'm glad you ask > > > them because then *I* learn things I never would have. But please, > > I > > > beg of you, grow up, and learn to back off when you've made an > > > ill-considered remark. Stop making us forfeit in these discussions > > > because we can't stand throwing ourselves at the brick wall of your > > > stubborn ignorance. > > > > > > On 10/19/06, Ellen <ellengoodman6@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Here is an washingtonpost.com online discussion with a Gallaudet > > > > student whom I guess is leading the protests or something: > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- > > > > dyn/content/discussion/2006/10/18/DI2006101800565.html > > > > or > > > > http://tinyurl.com/ydk6bd > > > > > > > > everyone's questions to her seem quite similar to mine, so > > apparently > > > > I'm not alone in my opinion. Does ANYONE think the students are > > being > > > > even SLIGHTLY unreasonable? I haven't read the information in > > the link > > > > that was posted, but just from the chat I still think they are > > > > overreacting but who knows? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/weingartenchatters/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/weingartenchatters/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
