You should not invite people who just want mercenary work. You should 
invite talented developers who have traditionally been excluded. These 
aren't just women, they are also developers who are too poor and 
overworked to contribute seriously to Wesnoth. You should encourage and 
enable them to become long term contributers to open source software and 
the Battle for Wesnoth.

Just because you invite applicants from "outside" does not mean those on 
the "inside" will be excluded. It just means that you provide 
opportunity for diversity. Seek out diversity in your group of core 
developers, don't just look to acquire a token.

See this is the core point of the grant programme: the idea is NOT to
give people an "incentive" to work on Wesnoth.

Giving one of your buddies 5000 dollars is giving him an incentive. It's 
replacing a moral incentive with a monetary one. You don't have to 
exclude people to accomplish your goal or promoting a productivity gain 
for Wesnoth. If what your trying to do is reward past contributors for 
their hard work, then do that instead.

A lot of people have given a lot of time to the Wesnoth project, 
yourself included, there's nothing wrong with paying yourself for having 
done a lot of work. But, if you want a grant program meant to attract 
productive development you should take special care to be inclusive.

On 05/06/2010 10:22 AM, Nils Kneuper wrote:
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> Am 06.05.2010 18:53, schrieb Greg Boggs:
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>> I beg to differ. Including women in the project is not different from
>> how you hire and grant developers. Rather excluding women is exactly
>> what you will do if you don't tell people your hiring developers and
>> select candidates from those already on this list. If you want to grant
>> talented developers to do productive work on the project, you should
>> hire openly, fairly, and with equal opportunity.
>>      
> Sorry to tell you, that you as a user out of the community (why are you using
> the 'we think' angle all the time as if you were a core dev, btw?) have not 
> seen
> all the stuff we talked about. To sum the stuff about scholarship up in some
> short and pregnant words:
>
> *THIS IS NOT ABOUT FAIRNESS FOR EVERYONE IN THE INTERNET!!!*
>
> If the stuff was just about fairness we would establish some fixed process,
> announce it openly around the net making sure that it appears on IT sites and
> all the likes to attract as much attention from computer people as possible.
> We do not want to invite people that just want to do mercenary work. What we 
> do
> want is to show people that it is fun spending time with open source work. In
> general we do also have to be careful regarding the amount of attraction we
> reach for projects like this since someone has to handle the new people 
> joining
> and review project proposals.
>
> In general you are mixing some things regarding our "Summer Scholarship".
> Basically we got two different angles that we do consider to in parallel:
> 1) There is this grant thing. It is meant for "proven developers", people we
> trust. This is not limited to C++ coding but it does also cover stuff like
> creating artwork, creating content (WML) in "no idea which" area and all the 
> likes.
> 2) There is a possible scholarship explicitly meant to attract "outside 
> persons"
> which we plan to completely restrict to women.
>
> Do you see the difference? Yes, those are two basically different aspects. The
> only thing that is identical is that "Wesnoth Inc" does pay people.
>
> Cheers,
> Nils Kneuper aka Ivanovic
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