Worse. It needs the currency datatype which will not be ready till after the other units. On 22 Aug 2014 14:59, "David Cuenca" <[email protected]> wrote:
> You have to add the data to each corresponding item, for instance: > <ŠKODA AUTO a.s> sales <268.5M (CZK)> > point in time <2013> > <ŠKODA AUTO a.s> sales <262.6M (CZK)> > point in time <2012> > > The problem is that the information you want to enter requires the unit > datatype, so I guess you will have to wait. > > There are also some experiments to store data as CSV or JSON > http://graphtest.wmflabs.org/wiki/Data:Json:World-110m > http://graphtest.wmflabs.org/wiki/Data:Csv:Stocks > > And then you can visualize it: http://graphtest.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page > > Cheers, > Micru > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Jan Kučera <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Can someone show me how to make use of wikidata and save following 2D >> table in a structured day (properties???) so that it can later be retrieved >> via queries into a list? >> >> >> https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seznam_nejv%C4%9Bt%C5%A1%C3%ADch_%C4%8Desk%C3%BDch_firem_podle_tr%C5%BEeb >> >> Thanks! >> >> 2014-06-16 10:35 GMT+02:00 Joe Filceolaire <[email protected]>: >> >> Oops. >>> >>> My mistake. The properties I proposed weren't the ones approved. :( >>> >>> The property proposals are at >>> >>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Event#Sports_Leagues >>> >>> joe >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Gerard Meijssen < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hoi, >>>> Do you have a link and an example of a fleshed out use of these >>>> properties? >>>> Thanks, >>>> GerardM >>>> >>>> >>>> On 15 June 2014 21:49, Joe Filceolaire <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Exactly. >>>>> >>>>> If the data in the table cannot be expressed as a set of statements >>>>> (probably with a qualifier for each column of the table) then why would we >>>>> include it? >>>>> >>>>> See my recently approved proposals for properties needed for recording >>>>> sports league tables (and World Cup groups) as statements - listed in this >>>>> weeks weekly summary. >>>>> >>>>> What advantage would there be for recording these results in a table >>>>> rather than as statements? If the answer is to ensure consistent >>>>> formatting >>>>> then we need to look at templates and tools for entering and editing data, >>>>> not new datatypes. >>>>> >>>>> Joe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Yury Katkov <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Probably the CSV exporters to the wikidata can be a suitable answer >>>>>> to this problem. For example we have the table of all mayors in Rome >>>>>> (there >>>>>> were a lot of them) with their titles and years of begin and end. It >>>>>> shouldn't be very hard to write a convertor that will create the property >>>>>> values of "head of government >>>>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P6>" property and populate >>>>>> all these mayors like here: >>>>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q656#wb-terms >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Yury Katkov >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Thomas Douillard < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi yan, simple 2d tables are just really an implementation of a set >>>>>>> of relations. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For example the tabular datas like an adress book like >>>>>>> Name Phone-Number City >>>>>>> John 12345 New York >>>>>>> Katie 23456 Paris >>>>>>> >>>>>>> can totally be implemented in Wikidata with two properties and some >>>>>>> conventions : >>>>>>> * A "Phone number" property >>>>>>> * A "living place" property >>>>>>> and conventions that they plly to persons. Some may also requires >>>>>>> qualifiers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But giving that it's always possible to implement "tabular datas" >>>>>>> (what are these ?) the Wikidata way, is this a problem that they don't >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> a specficic treatment ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2014-06-15 13:43 GMT+02:00 Jan Kučera <[email protected]>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am really disappointed to see simple 2d tables still are not >>>>>>>> reality... the issue probably is related to the original PHASE #3... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2014-06-03 23:50 GMT+02:00 Jan Kučera <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can tabular data be currently saved as a series of statements >>>>>>>>> within wikidata? If so, how can I create such a series? Am I able to >>>>>>>>> feed >>>>>>>>> such a series into a wikitable on some wiki? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2014-05-30 11:19 GMT+02:00 Joe Filceolaire <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Simple tables that are in wikipedia: >>>>>>>>>> * league tables with columns for games won, drawn, lost, goals >>>>>>>>>> for, goals against, points, rank and rows for each of the teams in >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> league. >>>>>>>>>> * election results with columns for votes for each party and >>>>>>>>>> seats won by each party and rows for each region, state etc. >>>>>>>>>> * population numbers with columns for each tab (races, religion >>>>>>>>>> etc.) and rows for each census district. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In all of these cases I suspect that this information might be >>>>>>>>>> more useful as a series of statements. These could either be broken >>>>>>>>>> up with >>>>>>>>>> a statement corresponding to each column on the item for each row or >>>>>>>>>> alternatively with all the information in the table on one item, a >>>>>>>>>> statement for each row and qualifiers to each statement >>>>>>>>>> corresponding to >>>>>>>>>> each column. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What is the advantage to having this as a table instead? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Joe >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Jan Kučera <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well what I meant was just an ordinary 2-dimensional table (rows >>>>>>>>>>> vs. columns)... Excel was just an example to make it clear. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So I guess simple tables are not any roadmap yet right? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Further step would be an n-dimensional structures... arrays etc. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I wouldnt care about format.... CSV, JSON... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Jan >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2014-05-27 14:24 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca <[email protected]>: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please, leave your comments here too: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/How_to_deal_with_open_datasets >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I've been gathering comments from several people, and in the >>>>>>>>>>>> next days I will try to summarize these suggestions to be >>>>>>>>>>>> discussed on irc. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> Micru >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Ilario Valdelli < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not an expert of Wikidata but I work a lot in integration >>>>>>>>>>>>> of databases with several middlewares or tools. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that the best way is to ask a solution to store and to >>>>>>>>>>>>> download data in a format compatible with datasheets like CSV. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Excel is considered also a tool to do some basic analysis, but >>>>>>>>>>>>> it can be connected easily to a data source (if well structured). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Excel itself is not a good approach to store data, so it's not >>>>>>>>>>>>> a good solution to keep the data in excel format in a database. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't make sense to store a 2D tables in a database in my >>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion because the data have no sense and they are not helpful >>>>>>>>>>>>> to anyone. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> They can be stored like a text file, but I would not imagine >>>>>>>>>>>>> the series of errors that can be generated importing these data >>>>>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Jan Kučera < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can tables be stored within wikidata database? 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