Great news, and thanks! How will Wiktionary with Wikidata anticipate "voice" and "voice in translation" (for example in Google Voice or in other parallel projects)? And how will Wiktionary/Wikidata also anticipate all 7,097 living languages (Ethnologue) / 7943 entries under languages (Glottolog) and re machine translation? (I'll look at the plan more closely about this).
Thank you, Scott On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Amirouche Boubekki <[email protected] > wrote: > Héllo, > > I am very happy of this news. > > I a wiki newbie interested in using wikidata to do text analysis. > I try to follow the discussion here and on french wiktionary. > > I take this as opportunity to try to sum up some concerns that are raised > on french wiktionary [0]: > > - How wikidata and wiktionary databases will be synchronized? > > - Will editing wiktionary change? The concern is that this will make > editing wiktionary more difficult for people. > > - Also, what about bots. Will bots be allowed/able to edit wiktionary > pages after the support of wikidata in wiktionary? > > - Another concern is that if edits are done in some wiktionary and that > edit has an impact on another wiktionary. People will have trouble to > reconcil their opinion given they don't speak the same language. Can an > edit in a wiktionary A break wiktionary B? > > I understand that wikidata requires new code to support the organisation > of new relations between the data. I understand that with wikidata it will > be easy to create interwiki links and thesaurus kind of pages but what else > can provide wikidata to wiktionary? > > [0] https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Projet:Coop%C3%A9ration/Wikidata > > Thanks, > > i⋅am⋅amz3 > > > On 2016-09-13 15:17, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > >> Hey everyone :) >> >> Wiktionary is our third-largest sister project, both in term of active >> editors and readers. It is a unique resource, with the goal to provide >> a dictionary for every language, in every language. Since the >> beginning of Wikidata but increasingly over the past months I have >> been getting more and more requests for supporting Wiktionary and >> lexicographical data in Wikidata. Having this data available openly >> and freely licensed would be a major step forward in automated >> translation, text analysis, text generation and much more. It will >> enable and ease research. And most importantly it will enable the >> individual Wiktionary communities to work more closely together and >> benefit from each other’s work. >> >> With this and the increased demand to support Wikimedia Commons with >> Wikidata, we have looked at the bigger picture and our options. I am >> seeing a lot of overlap in the work we need to do to support >> Wiktionary and Commons. I am also seeing increasing pressure to store >> lexicographical data in existing items (which would be bad for many >> reasons). >> >> Because of this we will start implementing support for Wiktionary in >> parallel to Commons based on our annual plan and quarterly plans. We >> contacted several of our partners in order to get funding for this >> additional work. I am happy that Google agreed to provide funding >> (restricted to work on Wikidata). With this we can reorganize our team >> and set up one part of the team to continue working on building out >> the core of Wikidata and support for Wikipedia and Commons and the >> other part will concentrate on Wiktionary. (To support and to extend >> our work around Wikidata with the help of external funding sources was >> our plan in our annual plan 2016: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2015- >> 2016_round1/Wikimedia_Deutschland_e.V./Proposal_form# >> Financials:_current_funding_period) >> >> As a next step I’d like us all to have another careful look at the >> latest proposal at >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wiktionary/Development. It has >> been online for input in its current form for a year and the first >> version is 3 years old now. So I am confident that the proposal is in >> a good shape to start implementation. However I’d like to do a last >> round of feedback with you all to make sure the concept really is >> sane. To make it easier to understand there is now also a pdf >> explaining the concept in a slightly different way: >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_for_Wiktion >> ary_announcement.pdf >> Please do go ahead and review it. If you have comments or questions >> please leave them on the talk page of the latest proposal at >> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Wiktionary/Devel >> opment/Proposals/2015-05. >> I’d be especially interested in feedback from editors who are familiar >> with both Wiktionary and Wikidata. >> >> Getting support for Wiktionary done - just like for Commons - will >> take some time but I am really excited about the opportunities it will >> open up especially for languages that have so far not gotten much or >> any technological support. >> >> >> Cheers >> Lydia >> >> -- >> Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher >> Product Manager for Wikidata >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. >> Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 >> 10963 Berlin >> www.wikimedia.de >> >> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. >> >> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg >> unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. 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