Yes, there should be some connection between items and lexemes, but I am still hazy about details on how exactly this should look like. If someone could actually make a strawman proposal, that would be great.
I think the connection should live in the statement space, and not be on the level of labels, but that is just a hunch. I'd be happy to see proposals incoming. On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 10:00 PM Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hoi, > Please understand that for every label for a current item in Wikidata > there should be one lexeme. It would be really helpful when all the new > lexemes added are associated with labels. You will then be able to show an > item with the conjugation as is preferred for a language.Currently this is > not our practise. > > When we associate labels with lexemes, we have in fact the missing > functionality like indicating that a specific lexeme was preferred up to a > point. It allows for people to understand where "Batavia" was and why you > will not find "Jakarta" in certain papers. > Thanks, > GerardM > > > On 15 September 2016 at 17:40, Jan Berkel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> *- How wikidata and wiktionary databases will be synchronized?* >> New entity types will be created in Wikidata database, with new ids (ex. >> L for lexemes). A Wiktionary will have the possibility to include data from >> Wikidata in their pages (the complete entity or only some chosen >> statements, as the community decides) >> >> >> The pdf mentions 4 new entity types: Lexeme, Statement, Form, Embedded >> (?). Curious, was the existing data model not flexible enough? >> >> Will these new entities be restricted to the usage in a lexicographical >> context, i.e. Wiktionary? How will they fit into the existing data model, >> will there be links from existing Wikidata items to the new entities? (i.e. >> how will Wikidata benefit from the new data?) >> >> *- Will editing wiktionary change?* >> Yes, changes will happen, but we're working on making editing Wiktionary >> easier. Soon as we can provide some mockups, we will share them with you >> for collecting feedbacks. >> >> >> Making contributing to Wiktionary easier will be a huge help. Right now >> the learning curve is extremely steep, and turning away potential >> contributors. >> >> One thing to keep in mind is that Wiktionary is more than just the >> content in the page namespace. A big part of what you see is actually >> generated dynamically, for example transliteration, pronunciation and >> grammatical forms (conjugations, plurals etc). >> >> I imagine in an integrated Wikidata/Wiktionary world "content" and code >> lives in various places, and we'll have a range of automated processes to >> copy things back and forth, and to automatically create new entries derived >> from existing ones? >> >> – Jan >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >
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