Can anyone report on the successes of failures of the WYSIWYG Editor that was trialed? I think t had the unfortunate name of FCK or something..
On Dec 17, 2007 4:45 PM, Patricia Schlicht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David, Hi > > > > I would like to make one more comment, coming back to what I was saying > earlier. > > > > You mentioned that it is a bit of a problem, as no-one that you have > talked to so far has edited a wiki before. In fact, most people I talk to, > never edited a wiki before. These learners are from the developing world, > course developers in all of the global regions and we held training for > exactly the same purpose you are mentioned. Ghana, for instance: After the > initial training on the Wiki editing skills, we had a second follow up > workshop, to start developing course materials, which they are doing with > great successes. Yes, it will take a little bit of time, between 30-40 > minutes a day, to complete the initial course, but it is worth spending the > time. I myself just went through the process of converting a print-based > course into a Wiki online version in collaboration with the author of the > course I was converting who was a newcomer to Wiki. It was a great > collaborative effort and benefited both of us in the process, so I do > personally not consider this a barrier to collaboration, rather an > opportunity, if this makes any sense to you. You were saying that the people > you are referring to are busy people, many are not highly computer literate. > Let me say that opening the platform for those who want to learn, to provide > them with the opportunity to learn through guided and free training, if they > are interested, has led to great successes in the many regions we > established Wiki chapters. > > > > Cheers, > > Patricia > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Patricia Schlicht > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:26 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Wiki interface > > > > > > HI David, > > > > It is always hard to know how much knowledge is behind somebody's > > comments, so apology if my assessment and understanding - reading an > > email - was incorrect. Leigh also commented, and once Wayne had a chance > > to see this, he might have some suggestions for you > > > > Cheers, > > Patricia > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David McQuillan > > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:09 PM > > To: WikiEducator > > Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Wiki interface > > > > > > Hi Patricia, > > > > Thanks for your comments. > > > > I don't personally feel any need for Wiki-training. I've gotten used > > to wiki-editing, and don't have any major problems with adding and > > structuring content. I've done some programming in the past, and I > > see wiki-editing as a simplified type of coding. > > > > I have two other reasons for raising this issue. > > > > 1) I have decided to use WikiEducator as the main platform for > > building our course. This means that all of my academic staff will > > need to get familiar with the platform. This is achievable, as I plan > > to train them on the use of open office --> wiki-media text, but just > > adds workload, and reduces the time that they can spend on course > > development > > > > 2) I have set up a project on WikiEd and have invited my colleagues > > in the field of massage education to collaborate on the development of > > educational resources (NZ & USA so far). This is much more of a > > problem, as no-one that I've talked to so far has edited a wiki > > before. Sure I can encourage them to go through the process of > > training so that they can participate, and I will, but I'm sure that > > this will be a significant barrier to collaboration. These are all > > busy people, and many are not highly computer literate. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > David > > > > On Dec 17, 1:39 pm, "Patricia Schlicht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear David, > > > > > > Many thanks for your great comments! You are right, wiki editing is > > > significantly dfferent from the type of text-editing that most people > > > do. When I personally got start quite some time ago, I initially felt > > > the same and was thinking how can I manage this process, I am not a > > > programmer or coder but as it turned out, the tasks were not as > > > difficult to master as I had envisioned. > > > > > > Dr. Wayne Mackintosh, the founder of Wikieducator, and I have been > > > facilitating free Wiki Editing online training on a frequent basis. I > > > encourage you to express your interest and I am sure to include you in > > > the next round of trainings, mostly likely at the end of January/early > > > February 2008. > > > > > > You could of course also start on your own. I encourage you to go > > ahead > > > as many have done already before you and you will see how much more > > > potential you will discover. It is a great tool to have. > > > > > > Please refer to the Wiki Newbie Tutorials > > athttp://www.wikieducator.org/Help:Contents > > > > > > Please may also listen to the presentation on the Wikieducator given > > by > > > Dr. Mackintosh > > athttp://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Multimedia/Our_project > > > > > > Looking forward to receiving your comments. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > Patricia (Schlicht) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David McQuillan > > > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:06 PM > > > To: WikiEducator > > > Subject: [WikiEducator] Wiki interface > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I've been lurking on the periphery of the WikiEd conversation for a > > > while, but haven't really had much to contribute so far. I'll start > > > with a query. > > > > > > Are there any plans to change the way in which wiki-editing occurs? > > > > > > It seems to me that the major barrier to wiki-editing is the need to > > > learn how to write using media-wiki text. Writing in media-wiki text > > > is is significantly different from the type of text-editing that most > > > people are used to. If the interface was changed to something more > > > akin to the google-docs interface I imagine that the participation > > > would go through the roof. > > > > > > I realise that the open-office media-wiki text add-on has made this > > > process significantly easier, but it's still a jump for the general > > > populace. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > David McQuillan > > > > > > > > > > -- -- Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
