? No concerns here Randy. Was just thinking that some documentation of the FCK editor would answer Dave's query. I had heard that it doesn't work very well.. but that it is the closest that MediaWiki has come to an "easy interface"
On Dec 17, 2007 6:08 PM, Brent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes, it's the *MediaWiki+FCKeditor* project: > http://mediawiki.fckeditor.net/index.php/Main_Page > > brent. > > On Dec 17, 2007 4:47 PM, Leigh Blackall < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Can anyone report on the successes of failures of the WYSIWYG Editor > > that was trialed? I think t had the unfortunate name of FCK or something.. > > > > > > On Dec 17, 2007 4:45 PM, Patricia Schlicht < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > David, Hi > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to make one more comment, coming back to what I was > > > saying earlier. > > > > > > > > > > > > You mentioned that it is a bit of a problem, as no-one that you have > > > talked to so far has edited a wiki before. In fact, most people I talk to, > > > never edited a wiki before. These learners are from the developing world, > > > course developers in all of the global regions and we held training for > > > exactly the same purpose you are mentioned. Ghana, for instance: After the > > > initial training on the Wiki editing skills, we had a second follow up > > > workshop, to start developing course materials, which they are doing with > > > great successes. Yes, it will take a little bit of time, between 30-40 > > > minutes a day, to complete the initial course, but it is worth spending > > > the > > > time. I myself just went through the process of converting a print-based > > > course into a Wiki online version in collaboration with the author of the > > > course I was converting who was a newcomer to Wiki. It was a great > > > collaborative effort and benefited both of us in the process, so I do > > > personally not consider this a barrier to collaboration, rather an > > > opportunity, if this makes any sense to you. You were saying that the > > > people > > > you are referring to are busy people, many are not highly computer > > > literate. > > > Let me say that opening the platform for those who want to learn, to > > > provide > > > them with the opportunity to learn through guided and free training, if > > > they > > > are interested, has led to great successes in the many regions we > > > established Wiki chapters. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patricia Schlicht > > > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:26 PM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Wiki interface > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HI David, > > > > > > > > > > > > It is always hard to know how much knowledge is behind somebody's > > > > > > comments, so apology if my assessment and understanding - reading an > > > > > > email - was incorrect. Leigh also commented, and once Wayne had a > > > chance > > > > > > to see this, he might have some suggestions for you > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Patricia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David McQuillan > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 6:09 PM > > > > > > To: WikiEducator > > > > > > Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Wiki interface > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Patricia, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't personally feel any need for Wiki-training. I've gotten used > > > > > > to wiki-editing, and don't have any major problems with adding and > > > > > > structuring content. I've done some programming in the past, and I > > > > > > see wiki-editing as a simplified type of coding. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have two other reasons for raising this issue. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) I have decided to use WikiEducator as the main platform for > > > > > > building our course. This means that all of my academic staff will > > > > > > need to get familiar with the platform. This is achievable, as I plan > > > > > > to train them on the use of open office --> wiki-media text, but just > > > > > > adds workload, and reduces the time that they can spend on course > > > > > > development > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) I have set up a project on WikiEd and have invited my colleagues > > > > > > in the field of massage education to collaborate on the development of > > > > > > educational resources (NZ & USA so far). This is much more of a > > > > > > problem, as no-one that I've talked to so far has edited a wiki > > > > > > before. Sure I can encourage them to go through the process of > > > > > > training so that they can participate, and I will, but I'm sure that > > > > > > this will be a significant barrier to collaboration. These are all > > > > > > busy people, and many are not highly computer literate. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 1:39 pm, "Patricia Schlicht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear David, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks for your great comments! You are right, wiki editing is > > > > > > > significantly dfferent from the type of text-editing that most > > > people > > > > > > > do. When I personally got start quite some time ago, I initially > > > felt > > > > > > > the same and was thinking how can I manage this process, I am not a > > > > > > > programmer or coder but as it turned out, the tasks were not as > > > > > > > difficult to master as I had envisioned. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Wayne Mackintosh, the founder of Wikieducator, and I have been > > > > > > > facilitating free Wiki Editing online training on a frequent basis. > > > I > > > > > > > encourage you to express your interest and I am sure to include you > > > in > > > > > > > the next round of trainings, mostly likely at the end of > > > January/early > > > > > > > February 2008. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You could of course also start on your own. I encourage you to go > > > > > > ahead > > > > > > > as many have done already before you and you will see how much more > > > > > > > potential you will discover. It is a great tool to have. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please refer to the Wiki Newbie Tutorials > > > > > > athttp://www.wikieducator.org/Help:Contents > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please may also listen to the presentation on the Wikieducator given > > > > > > by > > > > > > > Dr. Mackintosh > > > > > > athttp://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Multimedia/Our_project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looking forward to receiving your comments. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > > Patricia (Schlicht) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David McQuillan > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:06 PM > > > > > > > To: WikiEducator > > > > > > > Subject: [WikiEducator] Wiki interface > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been lurking on the periphery of the WikiEd conversation for a > > > > > > > while, but haven't really had much to contribute so far. I'll start > > > > > > > with a query. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are there any plans to change the way in which wiki-editing occurs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me that the major barrier to wiki-editing is the need to > > > > > > > learn how to write using media-wiki text. Writing in media-wiki > > > text > > > > > > > is is significantly different from the type of text-editing that > > > most > > > > > > > people are used to. If the interface was changed to something more > > > > > > > akin to the google-docs interface I imagine that the participation > > > > > > > would go through the roof. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I realise that the open-office media-wiki text add-on has made this > > > > > > > process significantly easier, but it's still a jump for the general > > > > > > > populace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David McQuillan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > Leigh Blackall > > +64(0)21736539 > > skype - leigh_blackall > > SL - Leroy Goalpost > > http://learnonline.wordpress.com > > > > > > > -- > -------------------------------- > http://digitalsynapse.co.nz > http://greymatter.co.nz > -------------------------------- > > > > -- -- Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost http://learnonline.wordpress.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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