Hi David, As you prepare your requests for partnerships, it would be great if you could put together some kind of a visual matrix of needs / requirements, so that folks visiting your site, could fairly immediately ascertain how they could be of help.
It will also help us spread the word within the WikiEducator community, so that we can facilitate linkages which our mutually beneficial. Congrats! Randy On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 1:51 PM, David Wiley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do I smell an articulation agreement? =) > > D > > On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Leigh Blackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Inspiring Dave and the gang. I'm once again motivated and directed by > your > > work, and will now begin attempting to position Otago Polytechnic as a > 100% > > OER Education and Training Org following your secondary school as an > > example. > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > David > > > > > > WOW! I'd like to join Peter in echoing our congratulations. This is a > > landmark milestone for the free knowledge community. > > > > > > The WE community will help in every way we can in collaborating on the > > development of free content for this initiative. > > > > > > Well done Dave --- still leading the pack hey! > > > > > > Cheers > > > Wayne > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2008-05-12 at 10:42 -0600, David Wiley wrote: > > > Our application to create a new public, online high school based on > > > OERs has been approved! > > > > > > http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/499 > > > > > > Now the real work begins... > > > > > > D > > > > > > On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 4:01 PM, simonfj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Leigh, > > > > > > > > Sorry this has taken so long. A lot going on at present. > > > > > > > > Re the blog. What would I want want with a blog when people like you > > > > say everything so much better than me? > > > > > > > > You know i inhabit lots of forums like this one - some inside > > > > institutions, some (like this) on the border, some which represent > the > > > > new (global) institutions like sitepoint. The nearest thing to a > blog > > > > = http://me.edu.au/p/Simonfj > > > > > > > > It's not much but you know it's constructed by education.au, and > > > > they're starting to see that me.edu.au could also be an Aussie's > > > > lifelong learning account = an OpenID to other .edu and .gov.au > > > > domains. > > > > > > > > Like most institutions, the edna guys have a problem separating > > > > eteaching from elearning. > > http://www.groups.edna.edu.au/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=25285#78420 > > > > But there getting there. Conflation is such a wonderful description > > > > isn't it? > > > > > > > > You might want to keep tabs on Moodle's Social lounge. > > > > http://moodle.org/mod/forum/view.php?id=6801 > > > > And compare it to what Wayne''s doing and the (unreported) Tectonic > > > > Shift between wiki stuff. > > > > > > > > We seem to be at the stage now where there's starting to be some > focus > > > > on the Real Time Communications stuff. The 'web 2.0' focus is tiring > > > > now = so many domains producing so many "me too" > courses/information. > > > > But the driving factor is that the National telcos have squeezed the > > > > lemon dry (with VoIP, etc) and Skype has attuned global communities > to > > > > just how much they are ripped off. So all those skills you've picked > > > > up by working with it should prove to be useful as its Open versions > > > > grow legs. > > > > > > > > I can't push this (my lady is sooo ill, so i can't get out) but i do > > > > have a patent which should be useful as the geeks start focusing on > > > > this little challenge. > > http://openlearn.open.ac.uk/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1172 > > > > > > > > In the meantime, thanks for all your stuff and others around this > > > > space (Wayne). It keep sane to see so much creativity and common > sense > > > > in the one place. > > > > Here's one other. http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/66 > > > > regards, > > > > http://me.edu.au/p/Simonfj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 26, 7:15 am, "Leigh Blackall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > >> Well said Simon. Do you keep a blog I'm not aware of? I'd like to > be > > > >> following this type of advice and insight. > > > >> > > > >> Regarding very slight change all too slowly... > > > >> > > > >> The thing I am seeing more and more of in the institutions and the > > people > > > >> like me that have been in them for far too long, is the adoption of > the > > > >> rhetoric but not the action. > > > >> > > > >> I am seeing many projects get funded based on their 'participatory' > > models, > > > >> their openness, their 'action' research. But in reality they don't > have > > > >> anything near participation or openness, and as a result very > little > > action > > > >> to then research. > > > >> > > > >> Simple things like, a fella in charge of a project organising a > public > > > >> seminar to launch the project, in which 3 other fellas position > > themselves > > > >> centre stage and proceed to TELL everyone what they have planned. > > Typically, > > > >> they have not organised any back channel, their feedback loop (if > they > > have > > > >> one) involves sending an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that gets no reply. > And > > at > > > >> the end of the seminar people walk out feeling ripped off that they > > missed > > > >> their fav TV show to attend it and NOT participate. > > > >> > > > >> I'm sure this is the way it has always been, but today it is even > worse > > > >> because we have all the lobby and research that says participation > and > > > >> oppenness is the way, and the government and funding bodies are > > positioning > > > >> their criteria for this, but the measures and accountability for > > > >> participation and oppeness are not in place. As a result, millions > of $ > > are > > > >> being awarded to some projects for people who are simply good at > > wearing > > > >> rhetoric without really changing their action. Their reports end up > the > > same > > > >> camelion output. > > > >> > > > >> I hope all this ranting is trikiing a chord your end, because I am > > seeing it > > > >> more and more, and it is concerning me a great deal. > > > >> > > > >> So, your suggestion to get the grant and do it 'ourselves'. Would > we do > > it > > > >> any better? Given that to get the grant we have to adopt both > theirs > > and our > > > >> rhetoric AND be accountable to that? The projects I am a part of > that > > have > > > >> that accountability involve so many compromises that its easy to > lose > > sight > > > >> of what you were trying to do in the first place. > > > >> > > > >> How can we obtain resources and retain the freedom to act and react > > quickly > > > >> and spontaneously like we have done so all along? Is this what the > US > > > >> ideology of free markets and corporatism is trying to tell us? This > > self > > > >> organising principle based on a very simple funding arrangement of > user > > pays > > > >> and demand... > > > >> > > > >> I'm starting to wonder off and become incoherent (if I'm not > totally > > that > > > >> way already). > > > >> > > > >> In short, it seems that we ARE doing it already, and each of us > > individually > > > >> dragging our institutional blobs and resources along with us. I > have > > managed > > > >> to position my job and its performance indicators so that my work > with > > > >> Wikieducator can be sustained. So in that way, the institution I am > > working > > > >> in is changing, and I have the freedom to act and react in that new > > > >> framework. When I started, they would have had me work in their > LMS. So > > if > > > >> we can get enough people doing that (positioning their job into > this > > Wikied > > > >> utility web service), we might start seeing more sustained > resources > > into > > > >> Wikieducator's participatory and open model, and the individual > > freedoms > > > >> with that. At the moment, I suspect that most people are simply > > dabbling in > > > >> Wikieducator and are doing so outside their job description and > > performance > > > >> indicators. > > > >> > > > >> So either things like WIkieducaor continue on that path and be > patient, > > CoL > > > >> and other facilitators doing what they can to promote and develop > it. > > And/or > > > >> we find a way that will suddenly tip the balance in a > Google/Youtube > > kind of > > > >> way that involves us getting a large amount of money and working > > outside our > > > >> institutions with a very to subverting them... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- > > Leigh Blackall > > +64(0)21736539 > > skype - leigh_blackall > > SL - Leroy Goalpost > > http://learnonline.wordpress.com > > > > > > > > > -- ________________ Randy Fisher - Facilitating Change & Improving Performance - for People, Communities, and Organizations http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Wikirandy + 1 604.684.2275 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hirerandy.com Skype: wikirandy --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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