> > Names stand for ideas, so there will be the one and the only page about > "constructivism" and "math" and "multiplication" in any wiki. >
This is wrong, in an encyclopedia or dictionary this may be true. Warm regards Chris Harvey chris.superuser.com.au On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Leigh Blackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Great insight Maria! You are more than close I think. A thing that has > troubled me very much about the WIkieducator project is this one-ness. We > all encourage each other to identify as Wikieductors (up until this thread), > and the Wikipedia article gave me clarity on this concern. Some of us use > words like, "Wikieducator family", and "Wikieducator community" and this > spreads a feeling of commitment to the collective and one-ness. Stephen > Downes' talk about the differences between groups and networks is the best > yet articulation of this problem. > > Your observtion about wikis is very close to my sense too Maria, but I can > think of one very (the most) successful open education resource wiki that is > not - Wikispaces. Wikispaces is first and foremost about the many different > spaces on the platform. The Wikispace platform and business takes a very > back seat in it all, and in the early stages the owners went out of their > way to promote the projects on Wikispaces more than the Wikispace platform > itself. Today, it is clear to see (in comparison to Wikieducator and > Wikipedia) that Wikispaces is all about the projects on the platform. > > To some extent I think Wikiversity is successfully doing this, but there is > plenty of evidence to centrally control the project, and have users adopt > group identity and a sense of one-ness. > > Where this gets most unsettling for me is when that sense of one-ness is > then represented by a single person, or celebrity. In the case of Wikipedia, > it is of course Jim Wales. > > Alex, regarding globalisation. The roots of this is in the very inception > of the Commonwealth. Today it is through the free marketeering speer headed > by the USA, but echoed in the "West". Some wonder just how much bodies like > the UN and perhaps COL, inadvertently represent that globalised view. > > This might be seen as a new form of colonisation, a concept that the > Commonwealth again knows all about. The new form of colonisation is no > different. Its culltural, its educational, its delivered through media and > peak bodies, and relies on a sense of one-ness > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Maria Droujkova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Some entities involved in this conversation are new to me. From this >> extreme newbie perspective, this conversation seems to be about "voting for >> the best, the most logical, the most streamlined" vs. having many different >> sorts, kinds and flavors of... curricula, connections, models, theories. Am >> I close? >> >> Ever since wiki was invented, I've been wondering about this question, >> though, even if it only relates to this conversation through a tangent. So I >> am going to formulate it again. Wiki uses a "single idea, single space" >> metaphor, hardcoded by allowing one single page by each name. Names stand >> for ideas, so there will be the one and the only page about "constructivism" >> and "math" and "multiplication" in any wiki. This calls up all territorial >> mechanisms of controlling this seemingly limited "land" - and do these >> necessarily lead to wars? As Leigh said resignedly, in this thread, "Off to >> start an edit war in Wikipedia." >> >> In general, human groups need a healthy balance between convergence and >> divergence of ideas. It looks like wikis tend to promote convergence (either >> synergy-style, or survival-of-the-fittest style) rather than collections of >> multitudes of ideas. So, would wiki ed projects attract people who work in >> "the bestest single curriculum" direction? >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> MariaD >> >> I write, 'In the beginning was the Deed!' - Goethe, Faust >> >> naturalmath.com: a sketch of a social math site >> groups.google.com/group/naturalmath: a mailing list about math maker >> activities >> >> >> >> > > > -- > -- > Leigh Blackall > +64(0)21736539 > skype - leigh_blackall > SL - Leroy Goalpost > http://learnonline.wordpress.com > http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Leighblackall > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
