Well, I should have probably said "a network of goals" implying openness, lack of bounds, non-hierarchical structure, and impossibility to know exactly how many there are. Here is why I am asking this question, though. If Wikispaces' network of goals mostly contains Wikieducator's network of goals, why have two structures? If that "overshadowing, centralized set of goals and expectations" you just mentioned (not a network? a hierachy? hmmm) is a separate, different set from Wikispaces' goals, what are the main differences? As a new person, I can't see this level of summary for myself, so I am asking.
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Leigh Blackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > But Maria! There we go again! Is there one single goal (or list of goals) > for Wikieducator? Clearly there is, and that's what I'm challenging in some > respects. I have my goals, you have yours.. what we share is an interest in > education and the ability to share resources. Wikispaces focuses on > providing a usable and reliable platform, so I giess that's its goal (as > well as to sustain an income for its administrators). It just so happens > that a great many teachers use Wikispaces for educational purposes and they > license CC BY SA. They do so right along side projects that have nothing to > do with education. SO you see there are infinite goals in Wikispaces as > there are in reality on Wikieducator. Its just that in Wikieducator, we are > over shadowed by a centralised set of goals and expectations. > > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 1:27 AM, Maria Droujkova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Leigh, and others, >> >> What are the main differences in goals (and, as a result, >> "software-as-law") of Wikispaces and Wikieducator? >> >> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 7:22 AM, Leigh Blackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >>> Nellie, I'm reflecting on the reality that not a lot of collaboration >>> happens the way we seem to expect it to happen, and yet there is >>> productivity. From my experience, the availability of an add free media wiki >>> in which to develop web content for my inidividual purposes is a primary >>> motivation to use Wikieducator (along with the many other free publishing >>> services that are available). If my work is of use to others that is great, >>> but more and more I am becoming comfortable with the fact that collaboration >>> in terms of page edits is actually insignificant and unimportant to me here. >>> Now days I wonder if I actually even want collaboration in the sense we are >>> expecting - the page edit sense. That sort of collaboration is certainly >>> enabled by the wiki, and is evident in things like Wikipedia - but we are >>> not building an encylcopedia are we. What we are doing is much more open >>> ended, much more complex with everypage designed for a specific context, >>> basically impossible for random uncoordinated collaborative edits like there >>> is in Wikipedia. So, I'm wondering if we should adjust our expectations >>> about collaboration? I'm proposing a consideration of a networked and >>> distributed collaboration, much like what can be observed in blogging >>> networks for example, and what we can see on the Wikispaces project. Could >>> it be that a networked and distributed collaboration is more realistic and >>> in fact waht is happening here? If we came to the project with this type of >>> understanding about collaboration, would that change the rewards, >>> motivations and expectations? Where does that leave the idea of one-ness >>> that is promoted in Wikieducator? I would hope that it would lead to >>> Wikieducator being very much in the background. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> MariaD >> >> I write, 'In the beginning was the Deed!' - Goethe, Faust >> >> naturalmath.com: a sketch of a social math site >> groups.google.com/group/naturalmath: a mailing list about math maker >> activities >> >> >> > > > -- > -- > Leigh Blackall > +64(0)21736539 > skype - leigh_blackall > SL - Leroy Goalpost > http://learnonline.wordpress.com > http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Leighblackall > > > > -- Cheers, MariaD I write, 'In the beginning was the Deed!' - Goethe, Faust naturalmath.com: a sketch of a social math site groups.google.com/group/naturalmath: a mailing list about math maker activities --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
