Dear Dr.Wayne,

I think the ambit of consensus is so broad so that it can include consensus
to ‘do not edit’  :) such and such thing….by such and such members….on such
and such occasions etc etc Of course it has to deal with editing guidelines
and Policy for page protection also

I am not challenging the cause to be got protected, but thinking about the
right documentation for the same.
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Wayne Mackintosh <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Anil,
>
> I think you're very right about consensus on resources where there is an
> intent to collaborate on the development of a "universal" resource which
> would be applicable in a wide variety of contexts.
>
> However, consider for example a Ugandan teacher who is developing an OER on
> Ugandan history for a Year 10 Class in accordance with the Ugandan national
> curriculum. For instance, lets say a New Zealand teacher discovers this
> resource for possible use in a social studies lesson on East Africa under
> the New Zealand curriculum.  Obviously the New Zealand curriculum
> requirements will be different regarding emphasis, year level and learning
> objectives. I don't think that it would be fair on the Ugandan teacher for
> the New Zealand teacher to edit and change the resource.
>
> In this example -- I don't think that we are delaing with a collaboration
> VS protection issue. The Ugandan teacher would like to make his/her teaching
> materials avialble for adaptation and reuse in other contexts, but would not
> want teachers from other countries to alter the teaching materials in ways
> that it may not align with their national curriculum. (If you see what I
> mean.)
>
> I'm thinking here of ways to best communicate the intentions of the
> resource creator. Its not protected becuase the content is freely available
> to be copied and modified for use in another learning situation.
>
> On the other hand -- resources which are intended for univeral use (and
> ultimately part of an International Qualifications Framework) would need to
> focus and support WikiEducator's evolving consensus processes.
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> Cheers
> Wayne
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2009/10/20 aprasad <[email protected]>
>
>>   Dear Dr. Wayne and other friends,
>>
>> It is Collaboration Vs Protection; we need to fine tune
>> http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Consensus
>>
>>   On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Wayne Mackintosh <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> WE is a unique educational wiki project in many respects. We are
>>> different, for example, from Wikipedia in the sense that our collaboration
>>> is not focused on developing an objective encyclopedia entry resulting from
>>> the micro-contributions of a large number of editors. At the same time, we
>>> benefit from the advantages associated with mass collaboration, for example
>>> shared training materials.
>>>
>>> Moreover, WE has organised itself as a community of educators working on
>>> a wide range of different OER artifacts, for example: open textbooks, OER
>>> courses for online teaching, learning activities based on external
>>> resources, lessons, articles and research papers, handouts, glossary
>>> projects for use as a reference resource, the establishment of project or
>>> community nodes, the development of funding proposals as free content etc.
>>> Other wiki projects within the OER landscape have organised themselves
>>> around the nature of the objects being produced, for instance: Encyclopedia
>>> articles in the case of Wikipedia <http://www.en.wikipedia.org/> or
>>> books in the case of Wikibooks <http://www.en.wikibooks.org/> .
>>>
>>> Therefore we need to think creatively about how our community develops
>>> procedures to support the attainment of our individual and collective aims,
>>> while respecting the intent of the original creators. For example:
>>>
>>>
>>>    - There are institutions which develop courses on WikiEducator which
>>>    are not intended for collaborative authoring due to local curriculum
>>>    requirements.
>>>    - There are individuals who develop materials on WikiEducator which
>>>    they would like to make available for others to create derivative works, 
>>> but
>>>    would prefer not to have other educators edit their materials.
>>>    - There are many projects in WikiEducator which are seeking wide
>>>    collaboration and contributions from the community.
>>>
>>> So the question is: How do we support and respect educator contributions
>>> in WE given the different intentions of our individual contributions?
>>>
>>> Valerie has alerted my attention to this important topic (see:
>>> http://wikieducator.org/Thread:Ownership,_status,_granularity_and_category_(3)<http://wikieducator.org/Thread:Ownership,_status,_granularity_and_category_%283%29>)
>>>  -- Thanks Valerie. So what is the best way to signify intent and
>>> "ownership" of OER materials in WikiEducator. How do we communicate and
>>> respect a contributor's intention where they do not want collaborative
>>> authoring and participation on their OER resources? If an educator finds a
>>> valuable resource they want to use and improve -- can they edit and change
>>> the resource without creating problems for the original authors resulting
>>> from their modifications?
>>>
>>> Clearly we need a mechanism to visually communicate the intent of the
>>> creator to prospective editors. We need a messaging system which says, for
>>> instance:
>>>
>>>
>>>    - I need help and welcome WikiEducators to collaborate, edit and
>>>    improve this resource, or
>>>    - I have no problems if you copy this resource and modify for your
>>>    own purposes -- but will appreciate if you don't make changes because I'm
>>>    using this in my course, or
>>>    - I don't mind editorial improvements but don't want editors to make
>>>    substantive changes to my OER --- suggestions and comments are welcome on
>>>    the corresponding talk page.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that we need a template or content infobox which clearly
>>> communicates the intent of the original OER creator in terms of
>>> "permissible" contributions and/or restrictions with regard to community
>>> edits.
>>>
>>> Thoughts? Are there any other intents than those listed above?
>>>
>>> You gotta love the WikiEducator project -- we're figuring out solutions
>>> that work for education. We're pioneering the future that has already
>>> happened :-).
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
>>> Director,
>>> International Centre for Open Education,
>>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
>>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
>>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org
>>> Mobile +64 21 2436 380
>>> Skype: WGMNZ1
>>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Warm regards
>>
>> Anil
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
> Director,
> International Centre for Open Education,
> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org
> Mobile +64 21 2436 380
> Skype: WGMNZ1
> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
>
> >
>


-- 
Warm regards

Anil

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