Hi Wayne: I know I am late in inquiring about this, but I am a
little confused about how the publisher will gain from offering this
book under a free license. The reason I am asking is that I am under
contract to write a comprehensive community organizing textbook for
Pearson/Allyn and Bacon a very large US publisher. My editor has
offered me her time and wonderful resources that I could not possibly
have had were I doing this project on my own and I don't begrudge them
their fair share of any proceeds, but I would like my work to be
readily available especially in developing countries, so I am confused
about how I might meet my publisher's needs to make a reasonable
return on all they have invested in the book and in me as a writer
while still being fair to indigent readers. I hope this question
makes sense. Joyce McKnight SUNY/Empire State College, Member of the
OER Foundation.
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From: Wayne Mackintosh
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Date: 09/14/2010 01:03AM
Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] An Ethical Dilemma -- Feeling sad :-)-
When publishers don't do what they say they intend to do
Hi Gene,
Thanks for the note -- with every mistake (and I believe the
publishers have made an honest mistake) there is a learning
experience.
Together we can make the world a better place -- and the open web
and free content licensing can help. There is a place for everyone
in the sun -- even publishers who can earn a living through
publishing free content.
The embarrassing point is that my name is now published under a
non-commercial license :-(. However -- let's turn an honest
mistake into a success for all involved. I have just received an
email from the publisher requesting that we connect for a skype
conversation later this evening. I will suggest that they drop the
NC restriction and release the work under a CC-BY-SA license.
That would be a smart move for them imho --- the "free"
advertising resulting from a move like that would push and promote
sales.
We'll see what happens.
Cheers
Wayne
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM, gene aronin <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Wayne,
This was an exceptional commentary of your dilemma, because it
1)demonstrated what "creative commons" was all about, and 2)
demonstrated, through your honesty and forthrightness the
importance of this idea. Demonstrate by example. Good for you,
Wayne.
Gene
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:28 PM, aprasad <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear Dr. Wayne,
I can imagine how humiliating the situation to you. Hope
the publishers will come out with an erratum.
On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Wayne Mackintosh
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi everyone,
Never a dull moment in the free culture world.
Ordinarily -- I would not post public notifications
around potential misunderstandings or oversights by a
publisher. However, I find myself facing an ethical
dilemma. Particularly since today I'm been commenting
considerably on my personal ethics and views
associated with the non-commercial restriction on our
national New Zealand MLE list.
I was recently invited to write the forward for a new
publication -- a book of tweets on open text books.
Great idea, very cool and appropriate for our times.
In response to the invite, my very first question was was:
"More than happy to provide a "tweet" -- what license
will you be publishing the book under?"
Response:
"We will be doing this under Creative Commons -
Attribution - Share Alike license-
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/
That is the current plan. Any interest in co-authoring?"
My response:
"I always check that anything I write is published
under a free cultural works approved license :-) I
would love to co-author"
So I do my bit, read the text, write a short forward
and contribute a tweet. I now see that the book has
been published under a CC-BY-NC-SA license -- which is
very unfortunate, because I think its a great text and
it seems that there has been an oversight in
attributing my contributions under a license which
meets the free cultural works definition which was a
condition of my contribution. (See:
http://www.happyabout.com/thinkaha/opentextbooktweet01.php).
I've asked the publishes to print and distribute an
erratum indicating that my personal contributions are
licensed under CC-BY-SA on the basis of our original
agreement. I'm confident that they will do the right
thing.
When I submitted my tweet, I wrote:
"This is licensed under CC-BY which will enable a
derivative under CC-BY-SA." I did this work during
official time, and my employers IP policy requires
that I release my work under a default CC-BY license."
If there were any communications from the publisher in
the interim about changing the license -- I missed
these ;-(. Moreover, for the record, I would not have
agreed to having anything I write published under an
NC license.
It's ironic that while the book carries a NC
restriction -- the international public can purchase
the texts, hard copy or ebook for a listed price of
$19.95 or $14,95 and see that currently some discount
applies.
Anway -- this is a public announcement that my forward
is licensed under a CC-BY-SA license and my tweet - No
31 is openly licensed under a free cultural works
approved license (CC-BY) in this case. The publisher
was free to add an NC restriction on the tweet - -but
has omitted to attribute the source :-(. For the
record, both versions of the texts I submitted are
licensed under a CC-BY license. You are free to take
these texts, reuse them, adapt them, modify them and
if you like sell them :-)
Cheers
Wayne
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