The only example of a book I own licensed under a free license, I dont
really know if this would be considered an OER or whatever  but none the
less check this out.

http://oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_as_in_Freedom:_Richard_Stallman%27s_Crusade_for_Free_Software

At the time it cost me $50 AU but previously I had read it online and also
downloaded the pdf, printed and bound it myself which allowed me to read it
again while traveling. In the end I bought the hard cover version and traded
my poorly bound version for a stack of blank cd's at a unix user group
meeting.

Recently rms was in brisbane so now I have it signed :D

Warm Regards
Chris Harvey
http://chrisharvey.id.au

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 7:36 AM, kirby urner <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was just having lunch with my uncle, who self-published a book on
> pre-WW1 submarine construction in the North Pacific region of the USA
> (Seattle etc.).  He shared about his dealings with Amazon, but more
> generally with publishers witnessing the digital revolution.  I did
> his website:
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20060505050706/beneaththesurface.biz/front.html
>
> For those who don't know, Amazon now has a huge printing press and any
> book that goes out of copyright is fair game to mass produce and sell
> as new i.e. hot off the press, on demand with your order (no need to
> build inventory, the hardcopy is custom generated, and in such a way
> as to still make a profit at $10 a pop -- most traditional publishers
> can't compete at these prices).
>
> I come from the software world, where open source licenses flourished
> because software defines working machines, and people are always
> wanting to add bells and whistles.  With other authored works, such as
> novels, it's not the same situation, as you do *not* necessarily want
> other authors interleaving their thoughts and characters in your work
> of art.  That'd be defacement, like spray-painting a Picasso with
> Marvin the Martian (criminal -- though you could do it on a digital
> copy).
>
> I know the Oz books underwent a transition, but the new author didn't
> rewrite any of the original Frank Baum stuff did he?  Likewise the
> Disney characters progress through generations of artist, but it's not
> like you wanna go back and "deface" the originals.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Oz_books (re Oz as the
> prototypical Open Source world)
>
> In software, it's maybe a little different.  We have version control,
> so might keep the old stuff around indefinitely, but few are
> interested in reading it.  The most-in-demand stuff is usually cutting
> edge, sporting the latest new features.
>
> Engineer-artists of software actually expect (aim, hope) to have their
> work included in derivative works.  That's the intention.  You write
> hoping your stuff will be absorbed, as your currency in the software
> meritocracy is your reputation as an author.  You want your name
> associated with your "text" but it's not like you expect royalty
> payments.  More, you expect to be granted the privileges (such as
> deferential respect) of royalty by your peers and the lay public, as
> it's clear in the accounts that you're a person of merit (or a "jolly
> good fellow" as they said in Queen Victoria's era).
>
> Academia is already like this.  It's not how much you sold out for, so
> much as how much of your academic integrity remains after X presumably
> profitable publications.  Edwin Black (the historian) comes to mind,
> as a successful academic who nevertheless insists on telling it as he
> finds it, upsetting a lot of carefully guarded apple carts in the
> process.  His books continue to sell because he's still a trusted
> source of scholarship by enough accounts to keep him in the game as a
> bestselling author.
>
> Publishing is essentially free via the Internet, but then distribution
> matters.  How will the right people hear of your work?  Twitter?
>
> There's always the "visibility problem" of gaining a following, what
> some might call "marketing" though in academia there's a somewhat
> cynical attitude towards either "selling oneself" or "self promotion"
> although I'd say ethics have changed, and now some professors engage
> in "self branding", creating such personalities as Dr. Ruth, and Dr.
> Chuck (a Python guy, whom I've worked with) also even Dr. Phil (the
> guy Britney made a fool of).
>
> Anyway, what's interesting to me is to see more academic professorial
> types (vs code wrangler geeks) grapple with the challenges of the
> loaves and the fishes, i.e. the miracle technology makes makes
> possible, of spreading of communications extremely efficient at almost
> no marginal cost per copy.
>
> So what business models are based on artificially creating scarcity
> where their needn't be any?
>
> Those are the ones most worried about what to do next, and I
> empathize.  Putting a floor form of tenure under the meritocracy, a
> safety net, would make it all more like Finland (of Finlandia fame).
>
> A geek encampment, known for great code, might compensate all its
> people with room and board, kitchen access, wifi, days for fishing and
> goofing off, and yet not all of them have a commit bit on every
> project (some are not committing code at all, such as when busy
> learning new languages), some of which projects may have quite low bus
> numbers indeed (using the geek shop talk, sorry if it sounds opaque
> **).
>
> On the other hand, many resources remain scarce.  Not every science
> fiction writer is as good as every other.
>
> Not everyone is as good a writer, period.  Same in software.  Same in
> the visual arts.
>
> They say the most productive coders are freakishly more productive, by
> orders of magnitude.  What's that about?
>
> I'm just pointing out that good (sometimes technical, sometimes
> professional) writing is not always easy to come by.
>
> Creating scarcity artificially (where it's technologically
> unnecessary) is different from simply accepting the fact of only so
> much gold and silver in "them thar hills" (noting in passing that many
> precious metals are recycled, not mined anew).
>
> Kirby
>
> ** "bus number" is the number of people that'd need to be hit by the
> proverbial bus before a project would seem pretty much unintelligible
> to the other geeks, i.e. there'd be no one left to pass the torch.
> "Low bus numbers" mean only a few people understand and work with a
> given project or code repository.
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:55 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Thank you.  I think that it is important that we work on these issues
> > together as cordially as possible.   Big publishers don't particularly
> like
> > OER either as my editor reminded me just this morning...I don't want to
> be
> > caught in the middle but I have been a mediator many times in my
> > life...perhaps there is a place for such skills here.   Joyce
> >
>
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