Joyce and all, Your point and examples are well-taken. Yesterday, I saw two examples of the closeness of persons even if spatially distant. In the first, two colleagues and I discussed a project we were collaborating on. In the background of one, a dog was walking around and could have been picked up. In the second, I was visiting a neighbor whose son, Vince, was playing a video game online with someone distant.This eleven year old boy had earphones and a mouth piece which he used to communicate with another person as if the person was next to him. However, the point I make is that the housing of students in the same room does have a value that shouldn't be discarded. Through the many years of teaching (some of my classes were blended and others were online), I do see the value of face-to-face classes for certain teaching and certain types of students. Thank you, Gene Gene Loeb, Ph.D.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 11:12 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Gene: I have learned at ESC that the "in class learning dynamic" does > not need to mean that all the "warm bodies" need to me in a single room. > This like Blackboard Collaborate (what used to be Elluminate) and even > conference calls work well too and increase bonding among students and > between students and teacher almost as much as face to face. I have used > Elluminate in my community organizing classes for several years now. My > students and I are relaxed with one another, they make friends, voluntarily > help each other with their focal communities etc. especially if I give them > the opportunity to "hang out" together before class and if I voluntarily > stay after class to talk with them individually. In fact, many of my adult > students enjoy the Elluminate sessions more than driving to class, finding > a parking space, running into the building through the rain or snow, > worrying about childcare etc. In at least one of my classes our > Elluminate time became "cuddle time" for one of my students who gathered > her four year old in her lap for a "class and cuddle"...not something she > could have done in the typical classroom :-) JMcK > > [email protected] wrote: ----- > To: [email protected] > From: gene loeb ** > Sent by: [email protected] > Date: 01/10/2013 02:06PM > > Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Re: Why classrooms are important? > > This is a very valuable discussion. I have been stidying various > non-traditional ways to learn, and heard the claim that online classes are > the best. Yet, I see that in-class learning is very valuable. There are > several reasons, first, the element of meeting people in person and > interacting in person. teaching in class may be more effective for certain > learners. And some teachers are very effective, as much as or more > effective then other environments for learning. > > The value of this discussion threat is it does discuss the VALUE OF > IN-CLASS LEARNING which I haven't seen elsewhere. > Thanks, > > Gene > Gene Loeb, Ph.D. > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:08 PM, <[email protected] > wrote: > >> I agree that young people and probably not so young people need a teacher, >> mentor or coach to guide them but that person might be an academic advisor >> available on the web or perhaps even better an on-site mentor/coach who >> could work with students to choose OER resources that will best suit their >> learning needs and build logically toward appropriate learning outcomes. >> One of my community organizing students (working in Haiti) suggested that >> such "coaches" might be located in schools or some other kind of >> "educational resource sites"...they could provide face-to-face guidance >> for >> those who could access the site physically and perhaps telephone coaching >> for those who cannot. Even the addition of voice contact through cell >> phone might give inexperienced students the confidence they need as well >> as >> guidance through the often confusing world of academic preparation. I >> wonder what people think of this idea. Joyce McKnight, Associate >> Professor, Empire State College (US) >> >> >> >> From: jim kelly < [email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Date: 01/10/2013 12:40 PM >> Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Why classrooms are important? >> Sent by: [email protected] >> >> >> >> Agree. There is no doubt that interactions between a young (or beginning) >> learner and an educator are very important. Failure here guarantees that >> knowledge will be misused. The value and enthusiasm to learn require the >> presents of an educator. But a lack of qualified educators in many >> learning >> communities, money to obtain an education and a world in which the human >> knowledge base has gone global is requiring communities to redefine how a >> learner learns. >> >> >> Examine the observation made in the Youth Version of the 2012 UNESCO >> Education for All Global Monitoring Report ( >> >> http://www.unevoc.unesco.org/e-forum/Be%20skiller%20be%20employed%20be%20change%20generation.pdf >> ) by Ali Zayaan a 19 year old from Maldives "Even right now, many young >> people that can’t afford full schooling are able to access the internet. >> They can use the internet (whether at home or somewhere public like a >> library) to learn at their own pace for free, even if they have to work in >> the daytime or can’t afford or access regular schooling. If they want to >> get a qualification like a high school diploma, then they just need to >> afford time and money for one or two days to attend an exam. This lowers >> the cost barrier of pursuing an education a lot." >> >> >> Traditional educational approaches need to adapt. >> >> >> Jim Kelly >> ( www.k-12math.info) >> >> >> -- >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >> To visit the discussion forum: >> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -- >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >> To visit the discussion forum: >> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> >> >> > > > -- > With Sincerest Best Wishes , > Gene > Gene Loeb, Ph.D. > > -- > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > > > ** > > -- > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > > > -- With Sincerest Best Wishes , Gene Gene Loeb, Ph.D. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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