Or Music (really, a universal language) that benefits largely from mathematics, and is about relationship, complexity and harmony.
I recall Guy Laliberte of Cirque de Soleil talking about Music as the Universal Language. - Randy On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Edward Cherlin <[email protected]> wrote: > Seymour Papert asked the question, what if we could create an > environment in which children would learn to speak mathematics as > readily and as fluently as they learn natural languages? > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Right on...classrooms, online platforms, telephones, e-mail, even > > hand-written letters are all simply means of communication...the process > of > > relationship building and building students' self-confidence so that they > > can be self-directed are the crucial components...that said, some means > of > > communication are "warmer" than others...telephones and other synchronous > > means of communication are probably somewhat more effective than > > asynchronous written communication for relationship building and > > face-to-face may be even more so but video doesn't add all that much to > > teleconferencing and the technological issues probably outweigh the > > benefits. Back in the late 1980's when I was in graduate school at Penn > > State we used both a video-system and a teleconferencing system. The > audio > > produced better learning because there were fewer systems breakdowns and > > more importantly, audio is an active medium (even then people were used > to > > making important decisions on the telephone) while video is often a > passive > > medium, that folks use for entertainment, thus there is less engagement > even > > in interactive video than in audio connections...we also learned that > one of > > the main challenges is to match the communication medium, learners and > > content appropriately...just some thoughts at random. Joyce McKnight > > > > [email protected] wrote: ----- > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > From: Don Beadle > > Sent by: [email protected] > > Date: 01/10/2013 03:01PM > > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Re: Why classrooms are important? > > > > > > Yes Joyce, my two cents worth , is that learning does not depend on > building > > so much, as it does on relationships. > > > > Don > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Jan 10, 2013, at 10:08 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > >> I agree that young people and probably not so young people need a > teacher, > >> mentor or coach to guide them but that person might be an academic > advisor > >> available on the web or perhaps even better an on-site mentor/coach who > >> could work with students to choose OER resources that will best suit > their > >> learning needs and build logically toward appropriate learning outcomes. > >> One of my community organizing students (working in Haiti) suggested > that > >> such "coaches" might be located in schools or some other kind of > >> "educational resource sites"...they could provide face-to-face guidance > >> for > >> those who could access the site physically and perhaps telephone > coaching > >> for those who cannot. Even the addition of voice contact through cell > >> phone might give inexperienced students the confidence they need as well > >> as > >> guidance through the often confusing world of academic preparation. I > >> wonder what people think of this idea. Joyce McKnight, Associate > >> Professor, Empire State College (US) > >> > >> > >> > >> From: jim kelly <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] > >> Date: 01/10/2013 12:40 PM > >> Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Why classrooms are important? > >> Sent by: [email protected] > >> > >> > >> > >> Agree. There is no doubt that interactions between a young (or > beginning) > >> learner and an educator are very important. Failure here guarantees that > >> knowledge will be misused. The value and enthusiasm to learn require the > >> presents of an educator. But a lack of qualified educators in many > >> learning > >> communities, money to obtain an education and a world in which the human > >> knowledge base has gone global is requiring communities to redefine how > a > >> learner learns. > >> > >> > >> Examine the observation made in the Youth Version of the 2012 UNESCO > >> Education for All Global Monitoring Report ( > >> > >> > http://www.unevoc.unesco.org/e-forum/Be%20skiller%20be%20employed%20be%20change%20generation.pdf > >> ) by Ali Zayaan a 19 year old from Maldives "Even right now, many young > >> people that can’t afford full schooling are able to access the internet. > >> They can use the internet (whether at home or somewhere public like a > >> library) to learn at their own pace for free, even if they have to work > in > >> the daytime or can’t afford or access regular schooling. If they want to > >> get a qualification like a high school diploma, then they just need to > >> afford time and money for one or two days to attend an exam. This lowers > >> the cost barrier of pursuing an education a lot." > >> > >> > >> Traditional educational approaches need to adapt. > >> > >> > >> Jim Kelly > >> ( www.k-12math.info) > >> > >> > >> -- > >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. > >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > >> To visit the discussion forum: > http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected] > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. > >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > >> To visit the discussion forum: > http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected] > >> > >> > > > > -- > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > > To visit the discussion forum: > http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > > > > > -- > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > > To visit the discussion forum: > http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > -- > Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin > Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. > The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks > > -- > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > > > -- ________________ *Randy Fisher, MA *(Fielding) *Organizational Performance, Learning & Evaluation* 1. 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