Re: [WikiEducator] Re: Why classrooms are important?

Joyce . McKnight Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:03:16 -0800

Hi Don: Preferably all three (course, peers, and instructor) provide incentive for learning...and I would probably add students become more confident and competent if they become comfortable with finding and evaluating necessary information for continuing growth including "older" modes like books and personal contacts with experts and OER's and so gain confidence in self-direction. JMcKnight
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Awesome discussion

Another tangental postulation (phew too many syllables)

Students do well:

If they form a relationship with either their instructor, their peers, or their course.

On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Randy Fisher <[email protected] > wrote:

Or Music (really, a universal language) that benefits largely from mathematics, and is about relationship, complexity and harmony.

I recall Guy Laliberte of Cirque de Soleil talking about Music as the Universal Language.

- Randy

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Edward Cherlin <[email protected] > wrote:
Seymour Papert asked the question, what if we could create an
environment in which children would learn to speak mathematics as
readily and as fluently as they learn natural languages?

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, < [email protected]> wrote:
> Right on...classrooms, online platforms, telephones, e-mail, even
> hand-written letters are all simply means of communication...the process of
> relationship building and building students' self-confidence so that they
> can be self-directed are the crucial components...that said, some means of
> communication are "warmer" than others...telephones and other synchronous
> means of communication are probably somewhat more effective than
> asynchronous written communication for relationship building and
> face-to-face may be even more so but video doesn't add all that much to
> teleconferencing and the technological issues probably outweigh the
> benefits. Back in the late 1980's when I was in graduate school at Penn
> State we used both a video-system and a teleconferencing system. The audio
> produced better learning because there were fewer systems breakdowns and
> more importantly, audio is an active medium (even then people were used to
> making important decisions on the telephone) while video is often a passive
> medium, that folks use for entertainment, thus there is less engagement even
> in interactive video than in audio connections...we also learned that one of
> the main challenges is to match the communication medium, learners and
> content appropriately...just some thoughts at random. Joyce McKnight
>
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> From: Don Beadle
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> Yes Joyce, my two cents worth , is that learning does not depend on building
> so much, as it does on relationships.
>
> Don
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> On Jan 10, 2013, at 10:08 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> I agree that young people and probably not so young people need a teacher,
>> mentor or coach to guide them but that person might be an academic advisor
>> available on the web or perhaps even better an on-site mentor/coach who
>> could work with students to choose OER resources that will best suit their
>> learning needs and build logically toward appropriate learning outcomes.
>> One of my community organizing students (working in Haiti) suggested that
>> such "coaches" might be located in schools or some other kind of
>> "educational resource sites"...they could provide face-to-face guidance
>> for
>> those who could access the site physically and perhaps telephone coaching
>> for those who cannot. Even the addition of voice contact through cell
>> phone might give inexperienced students the confidence they need as well
>> as
>> guidance through the often confusing world of academic preparation. I
>> wonder what people think of this idea. Joyce McKnight, Associate
>> Professor, Empire State College (US)
>>
>>
>>
>> From: jim kelly < [email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: 01/10/2013 12:40 PM
>> Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Why classrooms are important?
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>>
>>
>> Agree. There is no doubt that interactions between a young (or beginning)
>> learner and an educator are very important. Failure here guarantees that
>> knowledge will be misused. The value and enthusiasm to learn require the
>> presents of an educator. But a lack of qualified educators in many
>> learning
>> communities, money to obtain an education and a world in which the human
>> knowledge base has gone global is requiring communities to redefine how a
>> learner learns.
>>
>>
>> Examine the observation made in the Youth Version of the 2012 UNESCO
>> Education for All Global Monitoring Report (
>>
>> http://www.unevoc.unesco.org/e-forum/Be%20skiller%20be%20employed%20be%20change%20generation.pdf
>> ) by Ali Zayaan a 19 year old from Maldives "Even right now, many young
>> people that can’t afford full schooling are able to access the internet.
>> They can use the internet (whether at home or somewhere public like a
>> library) to learn at their own pace for free, even if they have to work in
>> the daytime or can’t afford or access regular schooling. If they want to
>> get a qualification like a high school diploma, then they just need to
>> afford time and money for one or two days to attend an exam. This lowers
>> the cost barrier of pursuing an education a lot."
>>
>>
>> Traditional educational approaches need to adapt.
>>
>>
>> Jim Kelly
>> ( www.k-12math.info)
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