Awesome discussion Another tangental postulation (phew too many syllables) Students do well: If they form a relationship with either their instructor, their peers, or their course.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Randy Fisher <[email protected]> wrote: > Or Music (really, a universal language) that benefits largely from > mathematics, and is about relationship, complexity and harmony. > > I recall Guy Laliberte of Cirque de Soleil talking about Music as the > Universal Language. > > - Randy > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Edward Cherlin <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Seymour Papert asked the question, what if we could create an >> environment in which children would learn to speak mathematics as >> readily and as fluently as they learn natural languages? >> >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Right on...classrooms, online platforms, telephones, e-mail, even >> > hand-written letters are all simply means of communication...the >> process of >> > relationship building and building students' self-confidence so that >> they >> > can be self-directed are the crucial components...that said, some means >> of >> > communication are "warmer" than others...telephones and other >> synchronous >> > means of communication are probably somewhat more effective than >> > asynchronous written communication for relationship building and >> > face-to-face may be even more so but video doesn't add all that much to >> > teleconferencing and the technological issues probably outweigh the >> > benefits. Back in the late 1980's when I was in graduate school at >> Penn >> > State we used both a video-system and a teleconferencing system. The >> audio >> > produced better learning because there were fewer systems breakdowns and >> > more importantly, audio is an active medium (even then people were used >> to >> > making important decisions on the telephone) while video is often a >> passive >> > medium, that folks use for entertainment, thus there is less engagement >> even >> > in interactive video than in audio connections...we also learned that >> one of >> > the main challenges is to match the communication medium, learners and >> > content appropriately...just some thoughts at random. Joyce McKnight >> > >> > [email protected] wrote: ----- >> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> > From: Don Beadle >> > Sent by: [email protected] >> > Date: 01/10/2013 03:01PM >> > Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [WikiEducator] Re: Why classrooms are important? >> > >> > >> > Yes Joyce, my two cents worth , is that learning does not depend on >> building >> > so much, as it does on relationships. >> > >> > Don >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > On Jan 10, 2013, at 10:08 AM, [email protected] wrote: >> > >> >> I agree that young people and probably not so young people need a >> teacher, >> >> mentor or coach to guide them but that person might be an academic >> advisor >> >> available on the web or perhaps even better an on-site mentor/coach who >> >> could work with students to choose OER resources that will best suit >> their >> >> learning needs and build logically toward appropriate learning >> outcomes. >> >> One of my community organizing students (working in Haiti) suggested >> that >> >> such "coaches" might be located in schools or some other kind of >> >> "educational resource sites"...they could provide face-to-face guidance >> >> for >> >> those who could access the site physically and perhaps telephone >> coaching >> >> for those who cannot. Even the addition of voice contact through cell >> >> phone might give inexperienced students the confidence they need as >> well >> >> as >> >> guidance through the often confusing world of academic preparation. I >> >> wonder what people think of this idea. Joyce McKnight, Associate >> >> Professor, Empire State College (US) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: jim kelly <[email protected]> >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Date: 01/10/2013 12:40 PM >> >> Subject: [WikiEducator] Re: Why classrooms are important? >> >> Sent by: [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Agree. There is no doubt that interactions between a young (or >> beginning) >> >> learner and an educator are very important. Failure here guarantees >> that >> >> knowledge will be misused. The value and enthusiasm to learn require >> the >> >> presents of an educator. But a lack of qualified educators in many >> >> learning >> >> communities, money to obtain an education and a world in which the >> human >> >> knowledge base has gone global is requiring communities to redefine >> how a >> >> learner learns. >> >> >> >> >> >> Examine the observation made in the Youth Version of the 2012 UNESCO >> >> Education for All Global Monitoring Report ( >> >> >> >> >> http://www.unevoc.unesco.org/e-forum/Be%20skiller%20be%20employed%20be%20change%20generation.pdf >> >> ) by Ali Zayaan a 19 year old from Maldives "Even right now, many young >> >> people that can’t afford full schooling are able to access the >> internet. >> >> They can use the internet (whether at home or somewhere public like a >> >> library) to learn at their own pace for free, even if they have to >> work in >> >> the daytime or can’t afford or access regular schooling. If they want >> to >> >> get a qualification like a high school diploma, then they just need to >> >> afford time and money for one or two days to attend an exam. This >> lowers >> >> the cost barrier of pursuing an education a lot." >> >> >> >> >> >> Traditional educational approaches need to adapt. >> >> >> >> >> >> Jim Kelly >> >> ( www.k-12math.info) >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. >> >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >> >> To visit the discussion forum: >> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. >> >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >> >> To visit the discussion forum: >> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "WikiEducator" group. >> > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >> > To visit the discussion forum: >> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected] >> > >> > >> > -- >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "WikiEducator" group. >> > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >> > To visit the discussion forum: >> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected] >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin >> Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. >> The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks >> >> -- >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "WikiEducator" group. >> To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org >> To visit the discussion forum: >> http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> >> >> > > > -- > ________________ > *Randy Fisher, MA *(Fielding) > *Organizational Performance, Learning & Evaluation* > > 1. 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