We do not promote fair-use images, but we try to make good use of all
images that are uploaded during WLM.
Best,
Alexander
On 15.09.2016 13:07, Vicenç wrote:
I am not a lawyer and I know nothing about copyright in Russia, but
IMHO a Wikimedia organization should not promote fair use images, nor
on Commons or by other means. Such images can not be published as
winning photos, this is not a fair use, and a Wikimedia organization
should not assume any legal risk on behalf of photographers. It seems
to me an extension of the problem it had Wiki Loves Public Art at heart.
Vicenç
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*Tema:* Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM photos are deleted on Commons
For the specific case of Russia, I confirm that I have heard your point.
I also would like to encourage you to be open to listening to other
lines of arguments and be more flexible with considering other
solutions. Remember that at the end of the day, the Commons community
is also operating based on the same basic principles and motivations
as the rest of the Wikimedia community. We are in this together, and
to move forward efficiently we should work together.
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Alexander Tsirlin
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear Leila,
I can also repeat my point on list. Russian WLM organizers need
the time until October 31 in order to identify and properly
transfer no-FOP files. The Russian organizers really need this
time. They are unable and they will not work in a different time
frame. If Commons community accepts this, we are all fine. If they
do not accept it, we have to say good-bye to Commons.
Sincerely,
Alexander
On 14.09.2016 21:38, Lily wrote:
Hi Yaroslav and others,
I'm sorry that we are going through these current events. As a
WLM organizer, I feel the pain of organizing a contest,
encouraging people to participate, but then seeing or imagining
their disappointment. The one thing that gives the most
motivation to me is to see people succeed in doing the upload,
not to see them fail. From what I read at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_of_User:Лавров95_2#Comment_from_the_WLM_organizers
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_of_User:%D0%9B%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B295_2#Comment_from_the_WLM_organizers>
I also see some of the difficulties that the Commons community
are facing. This is not a pleasant situation for anyone. We are
all in this for helping people share in the sum of all knowledge.
At the moment, we are distracted.
We are seeing a failure of potentially more than one part of our
system. As a team of people working towards the same goal, we
should investigate what has happened from the beginning to the
end, understand what has gone wrong and where (no blaming of each
other, simply understanding), and come up with processes for
fixing the broken parts. This will help us not have to visit a
similar problem again and move forward together and more efficiently.
I will reach out to some of you involved in this discussion
off-list to start a (postmortem) discussion. In the mean time, I
ask all of you to consider the other side and treat each other
with humility, trust, and respect.
Best,
Leila
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 14.09.2016 20:50, Marco Chiesa wrote:
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 7:17 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The files have been deleted, meaning we will advise
WLM participants not to
use Commons anymore.
By the way, such images would not qualify for WLM anyway,
since they
are copyvios.
Cruccone
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I know. The problems are demotivation of new users and excess
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