Hoi, For your information ... an interview with Mr Zuggerberg... In my opinion there is an opportunity as he is looking for dense information.. we are really good at that :) Thanks, Gerard
http://www.wired.com/business/2013/08/mark-zuckerberg-internet-org/ On 23 August 2013 14:38, Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada <emi...@gmail.com>wrote: > Looks like NSA has bought some new hard drives and needs moar data. > > > 2013/8/23 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> > > > Hoi, > > But when they provide the infrastructure that allows our content to be > seen > > by many more people, they do us a service. > > > > In the end it is what we are about. Last thing I heard we were first of > all > > about getting the knowledge out there. > > Thanks, > > GerardM > > > > > > On 23 August 2013 12:14, Jens Best <jens.b...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > > > > > Nothing good comes with people like Mark Zuckerberg or Peter Thiel, > they > > > don't share our vision of a *really* free and open internet. So, > > actually, > > > Emmanuel, I couldn't care less which direction they gonna make their > next > > > moves. It will all be a disguise of what they really attempt and with > > whom > > > they really cooperate. > > > > > > It's time to realize that there isn't a shared vision of the web > between > > > Silicon Valley and Wikimedia. Their words are empty. When they speak of > > > freedom, they speak of the freedom of money and control. Just because > > they > > > use the word "internet" they don't speak of the same thing we do. > > > > > > Jens > > > > > > 2013/8/23 Emmanuel Engelhart <kel...@kiwix.org> > > > > > > > Le 23/08/2013 10:59, Kul Wadhwa a écrit : > > > > > I have my concerns as well so we're watching how things unfold for > > now. > > > > > Perhaps to add to Teemu's question (If I could be so bold) how > would > > > > > internet.org need to evolve to make it worth our time and effort > to > > be > > > > > involved? > > > > > > > > If what I fear becomes real, then I would be sad that our movement > > joins > > > > such a dishonest project. > > > > > > > > If they want to give access to a subset of Internet services and > adapt > > > > their communication (honesty about the product), then we face a > > dilemma. > > > > A dilemna between our wish to give access to our content (tactical > > move) > > > > and the one of having a free, neutral and un-clustered Internet > > > > (strategical view)... Big discussions in view, but we already have > done > > > > it with Wikipedia zero and I know the WMF tends to be pragmatic in > such > > > > situations ;) > > > > > > > > If they really want to help to give a neutral access to internet... > > then > > > > this is really a dream we should be part of! > > > > > > > > But, this is all about speculations... > > > > > > > > I just wanted to explain why this launch doesn't sound well to my > > hears. > > > > But I know nothing about their real intentions and concrete projects. > > > > That's why, it's IMO urgent to wait... and see in which direction > they > > > > will make the next moves. > > > > > > > > Emmanuel > > > > -- > > > > Kiwix - Wikipedia Offline & more > > > > * Web: http://www.kiwix.org > > > > * Twitter: https://twitter.com/KiwixOffline > > > > * more: http://www.kiwix.org/wiki/Communication > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -- > > > Jens Best > > > Präsidium > > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > > > web: http://www.wikimedia.de > > > mail: jens.best <http://goog_17221883>@wikimedia.de > > > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. > > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts > > > Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig > > > anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, > > > Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>