Michael, thanks for the recommendations. We will add this information to the public information of the event. I think most popular overland ways to come to Mexico from the States are safe, but is more safe have this information direct from the Mexico Federal Government.
Regards. 2014-04-22 13:23 GMT-05:00 Christopher Cooper < ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk>: > I find it difficult to believe it would be that bad. Yes, it might causes > some issues if it turned out that a bid won because it was the "least > worst" > and was actually still very unpopular with the jury. However, I think > people > understand that no bid is ever perfect and wouldn't expect every jury > decision on who hosts Wikimania to be unanimous. > > At the very least there should be a written explanation on what the > strengths of the winning bid were, and what the problems of those that > didn't were. This has been done in past years and would help prevent > mistakes being repeated. Also, since Wikimania is a public conference, I > think those that attend it and support it deserve to know why and how it > gets to be hosted in a particular place. > > As someone who has followed the bidding process over multiple years, I > think > it is fair to say that communication between the jury and the community > during the bidding process has not been as good this year as in previous > years. I believe improving this should be a priority for the next round of > bidding for 2016. As a member of the Scholarship Committee, I note that the > scholarships process was in the past criticized for just the same issue and > that has now been rectified, and from my perspective doing so has improved > community confidence in the process. > > Kind regards, > Christopher > User: CT Cooper > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:CT_Cooper > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Symonds [mailto:richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk] > Sent: 22 April 2014 18:02 > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement regarding Host for Wikimania 2015 > > No, Aya, I don't think there will be a public report - I don't think it's > happened in previous years. > > I for one would not be happy with making my marking grid public because the > bidders didn't know that the marking grids were going to be made public - > and for that matter, neither did I! I am also a little worried about being > "second-guessed" by the community at large. Imagine, *for example,* if the > jury was split down the middle, with half hating the Mexico bid and half > loving it: it could be very damaging for the volunteer team morale to show > that not everyone supported them, and it might damage the conference. > Perhaps in future it would be a good thing to do... > > However, I see where you're coming from - it would be good to have feedback > on the individual bids for posterity's sake, and to make sure that mistakes > or omissions aren't repeated in future... > > Richard Symonds > Wikimedia UK > 0207 065 0992 > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control > over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* > > > On 22 April 2014 16:27, Aya Mahfouz <mahfouz.saif.elya...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Thanks Richard for the reply! Will there be any public report with a > > matrix indicating the scores of the bidding cities in each judging > criterion? > > > > Kind Regards, > > Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Richard Symonds < > > richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > > > > > Christopher, Aya, > > > > > > Speaking as a jury member, the reason we disqualified Bali and Dar > > > es Salaam was that those two bids were not really complete enough to > score. > > > > > > Richard Symonds > > > Wikimedia UK > > > 0207 065 0992 > > > > > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England > > > and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. > > > Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard > > > Street, London EC2A > > 4LT. > > > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > > > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation > > > (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > > > > > > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal > > > control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* > > > > > > > > > On 21 April 2014 21:03, Aya Mahfouz <mahfouz.saif.elya...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and Mexico City! > > > > > > > > I add my voice to that of Cooper concerning the criteria of > > > > choosing > > the > > > > winner for 2015. In addition to the cities that Cooper has > > > > mentioned, I would like to know what happened with Bali's bid too. > > > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Aya Saif El-yazal Mahfouz > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Christopher Cooper < > > > > ct-cooper.wikimedia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Congratulations to Wikimedia Mexico and all those that helped > > > > > put the > > > bid > > > > > together. I believe Mexico City will turn out to be a great > > > > > place to > > > host > > > > > Wikimania and I look forward to attending. > > > > > > > > > > Regardless, I hope when appropriate, the reasons Mexico City > > > > > were > > > chosen > > > > > and where other bids could have done better will be posted > > > > > somewhere > > > for > > > > > digestion as done in previous years. 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