What I'm saying is, let's plan a conference before we argue over the name.
On 12 Sep 2014 00:57, "Risker" <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We do have a community centre.  It's called Meta.  It may not be a very
> elegant one, and there are definitely parts that can be improved, but it's
> our virtual community centre.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
> On 11 September 2014 19:54, Richard Symonds <
> richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > But we don't even have a bikeshed or a community centre yet :-P
> > On 12 Sep 2014 00:52, "Risker" <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On 11 September 2014 19:19, Charles Gregory <wmau.li...@chuq.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Isarra Yos <zhoris...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 11/09/14 22:06, Pete Forsyth wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Personally, I have no problem with the existence of the
> conference,
> > > but
> > > > I
> > > > >> find its name alienating. Not everyone agrees with that
> assessment,
> > > but
> > > > >> clearly some others in this thread do.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > What Pete said.
> > > > >
> > > > > We could go into issues with the exclusionary nature itself, such
> as
> > > that
> > > > > it would exclude representatives of groups who ran into trouble
> > > becoming
> > > > > official - despite such a conference likely being one of the best
> > > venues
> > > > > for them to bring up and discuss with relevant others how to
> actually
> > > > > address or resolve that trouble that excluded them in the first
> > > place...
> > > > >
> > > > > ...but that sort of thing is much harder to resolve/address. The
> > name,
> > > at
> > > > > least, is simple, and should also make a lot of the other problems
> > less
> > > > > glaring in the process.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Assuming the issue of the name is the sticking point ...
> > > >
> > > > What about the Wikimedia Meta-Conference? Or Meta-Wikimedia
> Conference?
> > > Or
> > > > MetaWiki Conference?
> > > >
> > > > It's more about the organisations in the background than keep the
> > > movement
> > > > going.  It doesn't seem (from my second-hand knowledge of the event)
> > > that a
> > > > regular editor would get a lot out of it?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > This is the same problem.  It's usurping the Wikimedia name, and this
> > > proposal also usurps the Meta (all communities communication forum)
> name.
> > > It is neither for Wikimedia (as a whole) nor for Meta.  It's for
> > designated
> > > members of affiliates/chapters.  It's okay for it to be what it is. But
> > > let's call it what it is.
> > >
> > > It's not about the colour of the bikeshed.  It's about calling a
> > bikeshed a
> > > community centre.
> > >
> > > Risker/Anne
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