What I'm saying is, let's plan a conference before we argue over the name. On 12 Sep 2014 00:57, "Risker" <risker...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We do have a community centre. It's called Meta. It may not be a very > elegant one, and there are definitely parts that can be improved, but it's > our virtual community centre. > > Risker/Anne > > On 11 September 2014 19:54, Richard Symonds < > richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > > > But we don't even have a bikeshed or a community centre yet :-P > > On 12 Sep 2014 00:52, "Risker" <risker...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 11 September 2014 19:19, Charles Gregory <wmau.li...@chuq.net> > wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Isarra Yos <zhoris...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 11/09/14 22:06, Pete Forsyth wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> Personally, I have no problem with the existence of the > conference, > > > but > > > > I > > > > >> find its name alienating. Not everyone agrees with that > assessment, > > > but > > > > >> clearly some others in this thread do. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > What Pete said. > > > > > > > > > > We could go into issues with the exclusionary nature itself, such > as > > > that > > > > > it would exclude representatives of groups who ran into trouble > > > becoming > > > > > official - despite such a conference likely being one of the best > > > venues > > > > > for them to bring up and discuss with relevant others how to > actually > > > > > address or resolve that trouble that excluded them in the first > > > place... > > > > > > > > > > ...but that sort of thing is much harder to resolve/address. The > > name, > > > at > > > > > least, is simple, and should also make a lot of the other problems > > less > > > > > glaring in the process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Assuming the issue of the name is the sticking point ... > > > > > > > > What about the Wikimedia Meta-Conference? Or Meta-Wikimedia > Conference? > > > Or > > > > MetaWiki Conference? > > > > > > > > It's more about the organisations in the background than keep the > > > movement > > > > going. It doesn't seem (from my second-hand knowledge of the event) > > > that a > > > > regular editor would get a lot out of it? > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > This is the same problem. It's usurping the Wikimedia name, and this > > > proposal also usurps the Meta (all communities communication forum) > name. > > > It is neither for Wikimedia (as a whole) nor for Meta. It's for > > designated > > > members of affiliates/chapters. It's okay for it to be what it is. But > > > let's call it what it is. > > > > > > It's not about the colour of the bikeshed. It's about calling a > > bikeshed a > > > community centre. > > > > > > Risker/Anne > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > < > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/guidelineswikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>