Siko makes an important point here. If there are too many time sensitive non-theme requests then that would be justification for allocating more resources to the grantmaking team next year.
Let's wait and see how the data plays out. Sydney Sydney Poore User:FloNight Wikipedian in Residence at Cochrane Collaboration On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Siko Bouterse <sboute...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:59 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> > wrote: > > > Actually, the experiment is whether such a campaign would drive more > > successful grants, as I understand it. It works from the assumption that > > such grants would have a positive impact. I'm happy to go with that > > assumption though. > > > > I still strongly disagree with this initiative, but especially the way it > > is executed. I'm glad to hear that all time-sensitive requests can still > > apply during this period - that would probably be quite a few requests. > > > > I'm still in the dark as to why this has to be a three month program > (that > > is a very long period of time to put everything on hold for an > experiment) > > and not just 2-4 weeks. Then you could actually commit to quicker > > run-through times in the program, etc. Reducing the time frame would > reduce > > the damaging side effect significantly. > > > > The campaign itself will only run for a month - in my experience with past > open calls for IEG, you really do need more than 2 weeks to get the word > out and get new ideas not only started but also developed w/ enough > community input that we rely on to assess which grants should move forward. > But in addition to the actual campaign itself, we need to bake in enough > time to prepare for it beforehand and get funded projects started > afterwards. There is significant staff effort behind the scenes for any > grantmaking we do, and in my experience even quick pilots take time to prep > and wrapup. > > I'm hearing your concerns loud and clear, still, and agree it will be > interesting to see how many truly time-sensitive requests will come up > during this period. If the campaign is deemed a success worth repeating and > we also find we're over-stretching those involved (staff and volunteers) > because many non-theme focused projects need to be concurrently considered > (this is a big concern for me, and something we'll be keeping a close eye > on), that could be data-driven rationale for resourcing grantmaking > differently in next year's annual plan. > > Siko > > > > > Lodewijk > > > > On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Peter Southwood < > > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote: > > > > > Did you not see the bit about "experimental"? > > > Cheers, > > > Peter > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: > > > wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Bjoern Hoehrmann > > > Sent: 06 January 2015 05:48 AM > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF is shutting down grantmaking for good > > > projects for 3 months for no reason > > > > > > * Siko Bouterse wrote: > > > >Why the gender gap? Although we’ve committed to supporting and > > > >increasing gender diversity, so far these kinds of projects haven’t > > > >emerged organically at any meaningful scale. In the first half of this > > > >year, IEG and PEG have spent only 9% of funds on projects aiming to > > > >directly impact this gap and less than ? of our grantee project > leaders > > > have been women. > > > >Without taking time to focus on increasing gender diversity in our > > > >content and contributors, this trend is likely to continue. > > > > > > What evidence is there that spending more on "gender gap" will have any > > > measurable impact on "gender gap"? I also note that you say "projects" > > > have not "emerged". That sounds like people do not actually have ideas > > how > > > to "impact" "gender gap" with money. Could you identify a couple of > > > projects that would have considerable "impact" on "gender gap" but that > > > have been refused funding in the past due to a lack of "focus" on "gen- > > der > > > gap"? > > > -- > > > Björn Höhrmann · mailto:bjo...@hoehrmann.de · > http://bjoern.hoehrmann.de > > > D-10243 Berlin · PGP Pub. 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