Why do we need such a Shop?

(I must admit that i tested the job a year ago, the product was fine, the 
shipment fast. A bit expensive for my taste.)

I agree with other users that the shop schould be hosted on wikimedia servers.

--Steinsplitter

> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:41:46 +0100
> From: rupert.thur...@gmail.com
> To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Who runs the Wikimedia Shop ?
> 
> How many orders are handled by this shop?
> 
> Rupert
> On Mar 21, 2016 17:32, "Joseph Seddon" <jsed...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> 
> > In an ideal world then I would definitely be pushing for a fully wikimedia
> > hosted online shop. I completely agree with the principles you've raised.
> > But moving in-house would require resources for building and maintaining an
> > ecommerce workflow that I don't think we collectively can justify. The
> > setup and maintenance of any solution would require a degree of people
> > power that I personally think could be spent better elsewhere in the
> > movement as I am sure you would agree.
> >
> > Throwing together an e-commerce site can be easy. But doing it well,
> > ensuring you are PCI compliant, ensuring its stable, secure etc. etc. and
> > making it user friendly both front and back end. That takes time and money.
> > Even if we did all that we would still in end up using a third party
> > payment gateway. To ensure the shop is viable and not a drain we need to
> > keep it as efficient as possible.
> >
> > As Marc said Shopify may not be completely FLOSS but many of the frameworks
> > that Shopify use in their hosted service are on available on Github [1] and
> > I would encourage you to take a look.
> >
> > With regards to the URL, I as a customer would find a top 10 website
> > sending me to a third party URL for their shop highly suspicious and I
> > certainly could treat it with suspicion. Making it clear that it is hosted
> > by shopify I think would at least improve the situation.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Seddon
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Ricordisamoa
> > <ricordisa...@openmailbox.org> wrote:
> > > Il 21/03/2016 13:14, Marc A. Pelletier ha scritto:
> > >>
> > >> On 2016-03-21 8:03 AM, Ricordisamoa wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> As in [1] I'd like to know whether the use of Shopify is acceptable for
> > a
> > >>> FOSS-friendly organization. Thanks in advance.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> While Shopify isn't FLOSS-only, they're a fairly okay place that does
> > >> contribute to FLOSS themselves (mostly in the Ruby and Go worlds, that
> > >> intersect very little with our own tech).
> > >>
> > >> I don't think it's reasonable to expect that every external supplier is
> > >> all-FLOSS.  For one, the movement would be pretty much stuck without
> > >> hardware, networking gear, and power at the very least.  Not every
> > >> service/provider even *have* pure-FLOSS alternative - let alone good or
> > even
> > >> adequate ones.
> > >>
> > >> -- Coren / Marc
> > >>
> > >
> > > My concern was about the (likely proprietary) JavaScript that is run on
> > the
> > > customers' devices, but it turns out that it isn't actually required to
> > > browse and purchase?
> >
> > I very quickly looked, and it appears to be mostly open libraries and
> > Shopify specific code for making purchases.
> > However any amount of tracking could be hidden somewhere in their
> > JavaScript, and an audit today doesnt mean it is safe to use tomorrow,
> > as the source code is not publicly reviewed before being deployed.
> >
> > > And yes, it'd be nice if the server side was under WMF's control too!
> >
> > IMO it is more important that any service on the "wikimedia.org"
> > domain (and others owned by WMF) is free software.
> >
> > Outsourcing the service provision is fine, provided the software is
> > free software and the delegated service provider abides by our terms
> > of use and privacy policy.
> >
> > If we need to run non-free services, that isnt free software or can't
> > comply with our terms of use and privacy policy, it should be hosted
> > on a different domain, preferrably the domain of the service provider
> > so that it is abundantly clear who the transaction is really with.
> >
> > --
> > John Vandenberg
> >
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