I don't have numbers of orders to hand but revenue projections for the store can be seen on Slide 12 here:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/WMF_Advancement_and_Fundraising_Tech_quarterly_review_-_Q2_FY2015-16.pdf FY 15/16 Projections: Gross Revenue: $74,383.34 Net Revenue: $29,933.74 Regards Seddon On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 4:41 PM, rupert THURNER <rupert.thur...@gmail.com> wrote: > How many orders are handled by this shop? > > Rupert > On Mar 21, 2016 17:32, "Joseph Seddon" <jsed...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > In an ideal world then I would definitely be pushing for a fully > wikimedia > > hosted online shop. I completely agree with the principles you've raised. > > But moving in-house would require resources for building and maintaining > an > > ecommerce workflow that I don't think we collectively can justify. The > > setup and maintenance of any solution would require a degree of people > > power that I personally think could be spent better elsewhere in the > > movement as I am sure you would agree. > > > > Throwing together an e-commerce site can be easy. But doing it well, > > ensuring you are PCI compliant, ensuring its stable, secure etc. etc. and > > making it user friendly both front and back end. That takes time and > money. > > Even if we did all that we would still in end up using a third party > > payment gateway. To ensure the shop is viable and not a drain we need to > > keep it as efficient as possible. > > > > As Marc said Shopify may not be completely FLOSS but many of the > frameworks > > that Shopify use in their hosted service are on available on Github [1] > and > > I would encourage you to take a look. > > > > With regards to the URL, I as a customer would find a top 10 website > > sending me to a third party URL for their shop highly suspicious and I > > certainly could treat it with suspicion. Making it clear that it is > hosted > > by shopify I think would at least improve the situation. > > > > Regards > > > > Seddon > > > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 7:34 PM, Ricordisamoa > > <ricordisa...@openmailbox.org> wrote: > > > Il 21/03/2016 13:14, Marc A. Pelletier ha scritto: > > >> > > >> On 2016-03-21 8:03 AM, Ricordisamoa wrote: > > >>> > > >>> As in [1] I'd like to know whether the use of Shopify is acceptable > for > > a > > >>> FOSS-friendly organization. Thanks in advance. > > >> > > >> > > >> While Shopify isn't FLOSS-only, they're a fairly okay place that does > > >> contribute to FLOSS themselves (mostly in the Ruby and Go worlds, that > > >> intersect very little with our own tech). > > >> > > >> I don't think it's reasonable to expect that every external supplier > is > > >> all-FLOSS. For one, the movement would be pretty much stuck without > > >> hardware, networking gear, and power at the very least. Not every > > >> service/provider even *have* pure-FLOSS alternative - let alone good > or > > even > > >> adequate ones. > > >> > > >> -- Coren / Marc > > >> > > > > > > My concern was about the (likely proprietary) JavaScript that is run on > > the > > > customers' devices, but it turns out that it isn't actually required to > > > browse and purchase? > > > > I very quickly looked, and it appears to be mostly open libraries and > > Shopify specific code for making purchases. > > However any amount of tracking could be hidden somewhere in their > > JavaScript, and an audit today doesnt mean it is safe to use tomorrow, > > as the source code is not publicly reviewed before being deployed. > > > > > And yes, it'd be nice if the server side was under WMF's control too! > > > > IMO it is more important that any service on the "wikimedia.org" > > domain (and others owned by WMF) is free software. > > > > Outsourcing the service provision is fine, provided the software is > > free software and the delegated service provider abides by our terms > > of use and privacy policy. > > > > If we need to run non-free services, that isnt free software or can't > > comply with our terms of use and privacy policy, it should be hosted > > on a different domain, preferrably the domain of the service provider > > so that it is abundantly clear who the transaction is really with. > > > > -- > > John Vandenberg > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- Seddon *Advancement Associate (Community Engagement)* *Wikimedia Foundation* _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>