Charles, Very few paid editors who currently advertise use the trademarks; they do say that they will write or help write articles in Wikipedia , and that is a true statement. They will sometimes say they are authorized to do so, or that their work is legitimate, which is false, but that does not seem to be a violation of the trademark.
What action are you prepared to take against those who violate the paid editing provision of the TOU, without violating the trademark? Have there been any such cases where you have even written a cease and desist letter except for Morning227? (If you need to reply privately, I'm a member of enWP arbcom and have signed the relevant nondisclosure statements). On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jacob, > > Can we get an ETA on the longer statement? > > Pine > > > On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Jacob Rogers <jrog...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I want to share a few thoughts on the paid editing issue. First of all, > we > > do have the ability to enforce our terms of use. If there are cases where > > you're encountering a severe problem with paid editing and community > > efforts are not able to solve it, please get in touch with us via > > le...@wikimedia.org and we can discuss how we can provide support > > depending > > on the details of the case. With apologies, I'm not able to discuss > details > > of any specific cases here because we don't want to reveal information > > about ongoing or future investigations or legal actions. > > > > In general, I do want to say a few words about the role of legal tools in > > these kinds of cases. Legal actions are a blunt instrument: courts use > the > > same solutions to every problem, and have not kept up with the speed of > > modern technology. So we are interested in helping to improve community > > systems and technological tools (like tools to help admins investigate > and > > block problematic users) that can make it so that legal action isn't > > necessary in many cases. > > > > I also want to note that we've been working on a longer statement > outlining > > some of our thoughts about our role in dealing with paid editing concerns > > and some ways the communities can effectively approach these issues as > > well. We plan to post this on-wiki soon. > > > > Lastly, let me say thank you to all the community members who help out > with > > these issues. We really appreciate everyone who reports cases to us and > > helps us take action where we are able, such as reporting some job > postings > > on third-party sites. > > > > Best, > > Jacob Rogers > > > > -- > > > > Jacob Rogers > > Legal Counsel > > Wikimedia Foundation > > > > NOTICE: This message might have confidential or legally privileged > > information in it. If you have received this message by accident, please > > delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the > > Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal > advice > > to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff > > members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please > see > > our legal disclaimer > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer>. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- David Goodman DGG at the enWP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
