If we had such a list of known bad actors created by the WMF we could than
more easily apply the G5 speedy deletion criteria.

It is easier to associate an undisclosed paid editor with the company they
are from than with their previous sock accounts.

James

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Jytdog at Wikipedia <jytdogte...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for this Jacob.
>
> Would you please address Legal's approach to the following scenario:  a
> company advertises Wikipedia editing services for clients, and there is no
> disclosure of paid editing by an editor employed by or affiliated with the
> company on Wikipedia.   (In other words, a company is obviously not
> following the Terms of Use).
>
> In my view, this is a situation where I would think that Legal should start
> a discussion with that company, and if those discussions fail to yield a
> change in behavior, Legal should then make a public statement indicating
> this, perhaps on the page you recently posted under a section entitled
> something like: "Companies that advertise Wikipedia editing services that
> have no disclosures on Wikipedia".  If a company starts to disclose then of
> course the listing could be modified.
>
> This is something that editors ~could~ do, but as the ToU are issued by the
> WMF, it would seem more appropriate for WMF to do.
>
> But I am interested to hear Legal's perspective.
>
> Thanks
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Jacob Rogers <jrog...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > As I mentioned in my email earlier this month, we've put together a
> longer
> > statement regarding paid editing and how we see the balance of the
> > communities' role and the role that WMF legal can play in these cases. We
> > tried to address the concerns that people have raised to us, and explain
> > when it's helpful to contact us to assist on a case. Of note, it does
> > explain what actions we can take even in cases that don't involve the WMF
> > trademarks.
> >
> > You can find it here: Wikimedia Foundation statement on paid editing and
> > outing
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikimedia_
> > Foundation_statement_on_paid_editing_and_outing>
> >
> > Best,
> > Jacob
> > --
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