I have a question: the news about pending Chinese "supply-side structural reforms" is almost all about matching supply to demand; for example see http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-01/22/c_136004899.htm
But if you look at pp. 42 and 63 here, you see the proposaled legislative reforms are actually about replacing a progressive income tax with a flat VAT: http://en.ndrc.gov.cn/newsrelease/201612/P020161207645765233498.pdf Does the Wikitribune model have a way to make sure that the truth is being told? How would it work in this particular instance? On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 6:56 AM David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: > On 25 April 2017 at 22:59, Jimmy Wales <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Today I announced a new initiative, outside of my Wikimedia activities, > > to combat fake news. It is important to me that I share directly with > > all of you information about this new initiative early on. > > > I was one of the Wikipedians at the hackathon days for this, a few > weeks ago. (And now it's gone live and I can speak of it in good > conscience!) > > The obvious comparison is Wikinews. Now, Wikinews contributors are > determined that WikiNews is a good project that deserves to live, and > they also resent Wikipedia for doing news more effectively as a > sideline than they do as their main thing and the WMF is unfair and so > forth. But from the outside view, it's important to note that > approximately nobody cares about Wikinews and it's a failure in > impact. Or: if WikiTribune turns out to have the content, > participation and readership of Wikinews, it will have failed. > > The question is why Wikinews didn't take off. There's a sort of myth > that it's too process-heavy - but the rough WikiTribune rules on the > day (which may or may not be the ones they go live with) were *pretty > much the Wikinews process*. (I looked them up on the day.) So that > isn't the missing magic ingredient. > > I suspect one big problem is that journalism anyone's interested in > reading involves gathering dubious information and assessing how true > it is likely to be. It's pretty much a process of turning bad sources > into good ones. Actual reporting tends to work like "I talked to these > three separate sources, none of whose names I can print, but I'll tell > you my editor." "Yep, looks likely enough to run." Bam, scoop. It's > hard to do that in a fully transparent manner (put up the recordings, > etc) without outing your sources. I spoke to one journalist on the day > and they concurred. > > And that's before you get into there being no such thing as neutral > news, just news that pretends to be. It's not clear that NPOV is even > a good idea - selection of stories to cover is a huge bias. > > There's also the danger of the other failure mode of citizen > journalism. The example I brought up on the day was BeforeItsNews.com > - I won't spoil it for you, go there and see what sort of stories it > covers and what sort of advertising it runs. It turns out you need > sane editorial control at some level. > > It's possible the missing magical ingredient that will let it take off > will be paid professional journalists - that this will produce a news > site that's exciting enough, and not just "me too" stories everyone is > already running, to get subscribers. But again, it'll need some way > for them to say "This is the story, I'm not revealing my sources, but > me and x editor concur it's a news story we'd stand by running." > > WordPress is probably the least-worst option for a CMS. MediaWiki is a > horrible CMS for anything that isn't a reference work. You can do > almost anything with WordPress if you throw enough money at extension > development. (Which may or may not be a good idea.) > > Anyway, I'll be watching closely and probably diving in at least slightly. > > > - d. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
