Hey David & Romaine,

I wanted to just give a quick reply to let you know that I am looking into
this further.

I will reiterate that WMF fundraising does not and has not actively shown
fundraising banners to logged in users for the past five years and I do
apologise if you've been disrupted in your work whether through human or
technical error.

The possible causes for this are numerous and it will take time to identify
the scale, cause and solution to this.

Regards
Seddon

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I am sorry to say but I am constantly logged in and do see fundraising
> banners every year.
>
> Each time when it was announced fundraising banners would come, I have seen
> them logged in, in multiple countries.
>
> Romaine
>
>
> Op dinsdag 5 september 2017 heeft Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org>
> het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> > Hey Strainu,
> >
> > You are probably right in that you saw a banner but regarding
> specifically
> > fundraising banners, I am 100% certain that the WMF does not and has not
> > for some years actively shown banners to users who are logged in. The
> > caveat with that is this does not preclude any possibility of human error
> > or a software bug. I'm not aware of any specific occasion where this has
> > occurred in the last two years but with a piece of software that serves
> > billions of page views, across 20-30 countries and some probably some
> 3000
> > banner tests during that period, probabilities that something hadn't gone
> > wrong start reaching levels of sigma that not even I would attempt to
> claim
> > :P
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Seddon
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Strainu <strain...@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > Changing subject, the other thread is about something totally
> different.
> > >
> > > 2017-09-05 14:38 GMT+03:00 Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org
> > <javascript:;>>:
> > > > WMF hasn't shown fundraising banners to logged in users for several
> > > years.
> > >
> > > While I wouldn't bet my life on it, I'm pretty sure I saw banners on
> > > mobile just last month, while being logged in.
> > >
> > > Strainu
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Seddon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5 Sep 2017 08:33, "Lodewijk" <lodew...@effeietsanders.org
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hey Ori,
> > > >>
> > > >> I like the creative thinking :) For the fundraising that could
> indeed
> > > work
> > > >> well (although I have no numbers on what percentage of domations
> comes
> > > from
> > > >> logged in users etc), but there are also campaigns tht are quite
> > > relevant
> > > >> for logged in users.
> > > >>
> > > >> Lodewijk
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 7:16 PM, Ori Livneh <ori.liv...@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > On Sep 3, 2017 13:02, "David Gerard" <dger...@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On 2 September 2017 at 02:09, Michael Peel <em...@mikepeel.net
> > <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > This is possibly the most annoying feature of the Wikimedia
> > > projects at
> > > >> > the moment. You access a page. Then you start reading or editing
> it.
> > > And
> > > >> > then suddenly the page jumps when a fundraising banner / central
> > > notice /
> > > >> > gadget / beta feature loads. So you have to start reading the page
> > > again,
> > > >> > or you have to find where you were editing again, or you have to
> > undo
> > > the
> > > >> > change you just made since you made it in the wrong part of the
> > page.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Or you click "edit" and it hits the banner that suddenly popped up
> > > >> > under your click. AAAAAAAAAAAA
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > One possible solution would be to exempt anyone who edits an
> article
> > > from
> > > >> > being shown a banner by means of a cookie with a suitable expiry.
> > > Since
> > > >> > only a tiny fraction of visitors edit, I would expect the impact
> on
> > > the
> > > >> > WMF's bottom line to be negligible.
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