On 04-07-18 11:07, mathieu stumpf guntz wrote:
Le 19/05/2018 à 03:35, Denny Vrandečić a écrit :
If we want our data to be trustable, then we need traceability. That
is reporting this chain of sources as extensively as possible,
whatever the license require or not as attribution. CC-0 allow to
break this traceability, which make an aweful license to whoever is
concerned with obtaining reliable data.
Regarding attribution, commonly it is assumed that you have to
respect it transitively. That is one of the reasons a license that
requires BY sucks so hard for data: unlike with text, the attribution
requirements grow very quickly. It is the same as with modified
images and collages: it is not sufficient to attribute the last
author, but all contributors have to be attributed.
A license is not the way to achieve this. We have references for that.
So I see you started forum shopping (trying to get the Wikimedia-l
people in) and making contentious trying to be funny remarks. That's
usually a good indication a thread is going nowhere.
As long as one aim at making a federation of untrustable data banks,
that's perfect. ;)
This is why I think that whoever wants to be part of a large
federation of data on the web, should publish under CC0.
No, Wikidata is not going to change the CC0. You seem to be the only
person wanting that and trying to discredit Wikidata will not help you
in your crusade. I suggest the people who are still interested in this
to go to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728 and make useful
comments over there.
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