My cellphone spellchecker substituted "faith" for "fact". I was trying to encourage the use of your approach.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018, 06:43 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: > Hoi, > I take offence calling it a faith-based process. We have a database with > the citations of all Wikipedias. We have overriding principles that include > the NPOV and what the role of functionaries is in Wikimedia projects. When > they are a faith, they are our faith. > > My question to you is, why are you reluctant to start a process that will > bring down many hobby horses including yours and the ones in your favourite > project. Why not start where we face an urgency? An urgency that undermines > Wikipedia as NPOV! > Thanks, > GerardM > > On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 00:31, Dennis During <dcdur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Why not test-run the process on my favorite project - or yours? We > should > > get started. > > > > I am skeptical of the quality of judgment without a foundation of facts. > > At Wiktionary we have two main definition evaluation processes, one > > dependent on citations to which interpretative judgment is applies. IMO > > this process works very well. The other depends on opinion, votes, > > supported by whatever facts or authority or bluster (my specialty) > > advocates bring to bear. That process, though adequate, is not as > > satisfactory. > > > > Gerard Meijssen has suggested a faith-based process. If it is almost > ready > > to go, let it be validated and put to use. > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018, 16:45 Benjamin Lees <emufarm...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 8:06 AM Dennis During <dcdur...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Who is the judge? Are we going to join Facebook, Google, Twitter, et > al > > > as > > > > the new press barons? > > > > > > All of our work on the projects necessarily involves making judgments. > > > As a movement we have largely decided that editors on individual > > > projects should be the ones to make those judgments. But in some > > > extreme cases, our judgment may be that we need different judges. > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 1:03 PM Dennis During <dcdur...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > It is important that any wiki process be applied fairly. In this > case > > I > > > > think the Croatian wiki cannot be the first to have a new process > > > applied. > > > > > > I don't know whether this is the process we want. But if it is, > > > somebody's gotta go first. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> I > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
