Hi Tito -

Your observation is fair and welcome. The project team will update the
timeline on Meta-Wiki to reflect the latest rescheduling and our relaunched
consultations.

The priority is on completing the collaborative design activities of the
project (naming, design, and style guides) in time for the birthday in
January. The process of adoption will follow the completion of this work,
so it too will be adjusted in the timeline.

The project team is working to keep this timeline as accurate as we can
amidst much global uncertainty, so I want to be the first to acknowledge
that timing will likely remain at the monthly estimate level and may
further change.

Thanks,

- Zack

On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 7:59 PM Tito Dutta <trulyt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> With kind permission, I would like to further explain my question (in case
> it was unclear, and kindly assume good faith):
> The resolution (linked above and at [1]) states that "the Board affirms its
> support for the brand project and its strategic importance for the
> movement, mission, and 2030 strategy, and the Board directs the Foundation
> to complete this work by Wikipedia's 20th birthday."
> – what is "this work" that is to be completed by January 2021?
> I believe it includes implementation (first phase) as well? On Meta-Wiki
> the /Timeline page mentions[2] "January 2021" as "Organizational
> implementation: adoption by the Foundation with opt-in system for
> affiliates.
> I see an almost clear action point here that by January 2021 the opt-in
> naming comes into picture for the communities, where the brand value of
> Wikipedia will be experimented with a few communities/projects with direct
> attention.
> Wait, aren't we yet to start the review process?
> Kindly note, other than the 3 or so models, I have noticed that there was
> always another (robust) voice, and that's a "no".
> Sincerely,
> User:Titodutta
>
>
> [1]
>
> https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Brand_Project_Support_(May_2020)
> [2]
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project/Timeline&oldid=20140879#Post-project:_Adopt_and_advance_brand_(pending_approval_from_the_Board_of_Trustees_and_executive_leadership)
>
> Thanks
> Tito Dutta
> Note: If I don't reply to your email in 2 days, please feel free to remind
> me over email or phone call.
>
>
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 04:34, Tito Dutta <trulyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > From the resolution page (
> >
> https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Brand_Project_Support_(May_2020)
> > :
> > "... and the Board directs the Foundation to complete this work by
> > Wikipedia's 20th birthday."
> > — That is 15 January 2021. Interesting.
> > It seems the option is now to select one of three (re)naming options.
> > Actually, I was going to suggest a "movement-wide review" may need more
> > than 14 days of time.... for affiliates, and communities etc. .
> > Thanks
> > User:Titodutta
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 00:47, Zack McCune <zmcc...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> As promised, we are back with an update and a new timeline to discuss
> >> names
> >> as a movement. We are excited to take on naming together beginning 16
> >> June.
> >> Here is an overview of what happened and what to expect:
> >>
> >> After additional weeks of legal review and a conversation with the Board
> >> of
> >> Trustees at their 22 May meeting, we have alignment to present three
> >> naming
> >> convention proposals for movement-wide review on 16 June.
> >>
> >> The Board of Trustees affirmed support for the project [1] and vetted
> >> various naming options. They explored legal and financial implications
> of
> >> different approaches, and evaluated them based on their potential to act
> >> as
> >> compelling, unifying tools to elevate the work we are currently doing
> and
> >> ensure the future of our movement. Based on these assessments, the
> >> movement-wide review will revolve around two naming convention proposals
> >> centered on Wikipedia, one that is a Wiki/Wikipedia hybrid, and an open
> >> response area where respondents can share their own naming proposals.
> We
> >> feel confident that the vetting process has led to solid proposals,
> while
> >> we also want to ensure we are open to your ideas  and are committed to
> >> reviewing suggestions made in the open response area.
> >>
> >> While these weeks of work have reconfirmed that naming structures
> centered
> >> entirely on “Wiki” would not be legally feasible or financially
> >> responsible, we were able to uncover ways in which “Wiki” can be used as
> >> part of movement naming. We know there will be questions around this,
> and
> >> look forward to discussing more in detail during the upcoming live
> >> presentation.
> >>
> >> ***Join us for the live presentation [2] of the three Naming Convention
> >> Proposals on 16 June at 15:00 UTC.***
> >>
> >> We will present the various options that were considered, the risks and
> >> rewards of each, and how the process arrived at the three options for
> >> review.
> >>
> >> As previously planned, the movement-wide review to follow will be
> >> multilingual and will rely on surveys for individual contributors,
> >> affiliates, and Foundation depts, as well as open discussion on
> Meta-Wiki,
> >> from 16 June to 30 June. The two weeks of feedback will help to remove,
> >> refine and recombine elements from the proposals into a single,
> >> synthesized
> >> proposal.
> >>
> >> We look forward to talking names with you soon.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> - Zack & the Brand Project Team
> >>
> >>
> >> [1]
> >>
> >>
> https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Resolution:Brand_Project_Support_(May_2020)
> >> [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3zlBGHHHiY
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 12:12 PM Heather Walls <hwa...@wikimedia.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > I wanted to quickly follow up and thank you for being patient.
> >> >
> >> > Zack, Essie, Samir, Elena, and the entire project team was eager,
> >> working
> >> > very very hard, and prepared to share the planned Naming Convention
> >> > Proposals this week. Our colleagues across the Foundation,
> particularly
> >> in
> >> > Legal, were also tightly involved in this project that is both
> important
> >> > and close to our hearts. Rescheduling feels a bit disappointing to us
> >> all,
> >> > but we are excited at the chance for us to add more to the future
> >> review,
> >> > and to set up a stronger discussion across our Movement about the
> limits
> >> > and possibilities of new naming systems.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Heather
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 11:34 AM Zack McCune <zmcc...@wikimedia.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi everyone-
> >> > >
> >> > > Today, we are rescheduling the Naming Convention Proposal community
> >> > review
> >> > > planned for May 7 - 21, including tomorrow's live presentation. This
> >> > > critical part of the Movement Brand Project is designed to share and
> >> > > review compelling,
> >> > > unifying naming proposals that would sustain our free knowledge
> >> mission
> >> > far
> >> > > into the future. [1]
> >> > >
> >> > > We are incredibly excited to talk NAMES with our communities. We
> know
> >> how
> >> > > important naming is to the Movement, and together we’ve made
> >> considerable
> >> > > progress on options that would allow us to invite and inspire people
> >> to
> >> > > join us. People join the movements that move them, and we want our
> >> Naming
> >> > > Convention Proposals to be both functional and appealing.
> >> > >
> >> > > We are particularly interested in “Wiki” as a potential direction,
> >> often
> >> > > suggested by the community and widely used in our Movement. However,
> >> > there
> >> > > are significant practical issues with "Wiki" due to the relevant
> >> > trademark
> >> > > landscape.  We do not want to present to you an option that we could
> >> not
> >> > > make work. The fastest thing to do would be to remove it from the
> >> > > possibilities, but we hear your preferences and we don’t want to do
> >> that.
> >> > > Instead, we need more time to expand the research and risk
> evaluation
> >> > with
> >> > > our Legal team and the Board to fully understand what opportunities
> we
> >> > > have.
> >> > >
> >> > > We recognize that changing timing may appear to avoid a necessary
> and
> >> > > promised discussion. Nothing could be further from our intentions.
> We
> >> > want
> >> > > to meet our commitment to you to present the best options based on
> the
> >> > > conversations we’ve had so far, instead of a more limited set of
> >> options
> >> > > that we had to narrow in order to meet our deadline. We want to have
> >> more
> >> > > exploration and clarity on the risks, costs, and rewards of naming
> >> > changes
> >> > > to share with you at this critical phase.
> >> > >
> >> > > Collaborating with our Legal team and the Board, we will work to
> have
> >> > more
> >> > > details to share with you soon. The Project Team will meet with the
> >> Board
> >> > > of Trustees during their May 22nd summit, and will follow up as soon
> >> as
> >> > we
> >> > > can after.
> >> > >
> >> > > Yours in branding,
> >> > >
> >> > > - Zack, Essie, Elena, Samir, Rupika and the entire Brand Project
> team
> >> > > [1]
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications/Wikimedia_brands/2030_movement_brand_project
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > >
> >> > > Zack McCune (he/him)
> >> > >
> >> > > Director of Brand
> >> > >
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