Just out of curiosity, what state was this in?

2009/1/24 Andrew <orderinchao...@gmail.com>:
> I was having a conversation with a teacher in the field today and they had
> some interestinig thoughts about this. I take no credit for the ideas below
> but am happy to share them as I essentially agree.
> From a history learning area viewpoint, evaluating/comparing/contrasting
> viewpoints and interpretations of history may be a useful aim. Schools often
> have unreliable net connections or blocks on sites or domains, and having it
> on CD may be useful.However, to quote them, "my personal opinion is that
> most teachers and schools would be very wary to accept it and use it - in
> fear of being singled out in the media for using low quality sources and
> materials - it would just be another version of "encarta"". This teacher's
> feedback was interesting as we had been discussing their actual fairly heavy
> use of Wikipedia in the course of developing their own lesson plans and
> activities, as in the topics they personally cover, Wikipedia has excellent
> coverage and reliable information, behaving almost as a model of how all of
> Wiki should be.
> Would there be any merit in going through the History learning area from the
> NSW curriculum, which seems to have the most solid coverage of it, along
> both Ancient and Modern streams and see if we can do something that would be
> of use to them specifically? Once the NSW curriculum is covered (we may not
> cover all of it, we may be quite selective initially), then go to Victoria
> and WA, which have different curriculums and different priorities, but at
> the same time a lot of overlap. You then have something that works for the
> great majority of Australia, is specific to one area, focused, and would be
> a mix of Wikipedia GFDL content and our own linkages to curricula and
> possibly some resources and the like? There is an association for history
> teachers in New South Wales and they're covered by an association here in
> WA, if we got it to an "early pilot" level I'm sure we could obtain their
> assistance. Narrowing the scope like this would ensure we got an
> identifiable product that we could market to an identifiable group and have
> very clear goals about where we're at.
> What say others?
> cheers
> Andrew
> 2009/1/23 Lloyd Nguyen <zero1...@gmail.com>
>> You kind of get an idea of the complexity that builds up, after the
>> hoops I jumped through to get the collapsible box template working, so
>> I definitely think that we should have a very clear goal before
>> proceeding any further with this.
>> Frankly I still don't really understand why we need to import
>> anything, at all. There are other options that don't create problems
>> like templates, forks or obsolete data.
>> We could simply have a shortlist of the articles, for example. We
>> could make a list on our wiki, make some sort of category on
>> Wikipedia, if that's permissible, or base it on an existing category.
>> The Flagged Revisions system could be a tremendous help in future. We
>> should also see how Wikipedia 1.0 is doing, and what their processes
>> are. We don't really need to start from scratch.
>> 2009/1/23 John Vandenberg <jay...@gmail.com>:
>> > 2009/1/23 private musings <thepmacco...@gmail.com>:
>> >> I hope that a small feasibility test might be considered part of the
>> >> organising of such a project - ...
>> >
>> > Feasibility of what?  To test feasibility, you need a clear idea of
>> > what is expected or hoped for.
>> >
>> > Importing pages from en.wp is dependency hell.
>> >
>> > http://schools-wikipedia.org/  isnt a wiki; it is using software that
>> > builds the pages from the wikipedia page.  Perhaps we could ask them
>> > what software they are using...?  Veropedia has also developed similar
>> > software; we could also ask them for tips, or use their infrastructure
>> > by pushing pages through their review process and then saving their
>> > generated HTML.
>> >
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