Just out of curiosity, what state was this in? 2009/1/24 Andrew <orderinchao...@gmail.com>: > I was having a conversation with a teacher in the field today and they had > some interestinig thoughts about this. I take no credit for the ideas below > but am happy to share them as I essentially agree. > > From a history learning area viewpoint, evaluating/comparing/contrasting > viewpoints and interpretations of history may be a useful aim. Schools often > have unreliable net connections or blocks on sites or domains, and having it > on CD may be useful.However, to quote them, "my personal opinion is that > most teachers and schools would be very wary to accept it and use it - in > fear of being singled out in the media for using low quality sources and > materials - it would just be another version of "encarta"". This teacher's > feedback was interesting as we had been discussing their actual fairly heavy > use of Wikipedia in the course of developing their own lesson plans and > activities, as in the topics they personally cover, Wikipedia has excellent > coverage and reliable information, behaving almost as a model of how all of > Wiki should be. > > Would there be any merit in going through the History learning area from the > NSW curriculum, which seems to have the most solid coverage of it, along > both Ancient and Modern streams and see if we can do something that would be > of use to them specifically? Once the NSW curriculum is covered (we may not > cover all of it, we may be quite selective initially), then go to Victoria > and WA, which have different curriculums and different priorities, but at > the same time a lot of overlap. You then have something that works for the > great majority of Australia, is specific to one area, focused, and would be > a mix of Wikipedia GFDL content and our own linkages to curricula and > possibly some resources and the like? There is an association for history > teachers in New South Wales and they're covered by an association here in > WA, if we got it to an "early pilot" level I'm sure we could obtain their > assistance. Narrowing the scope like this would ensure we got an > identifiable product that we could market to an identifiable group and have > very clear goals about where we're at. > > What say others? > > cheers > Andrew > > 2009/1/23 Lloyd Nguyen <zero1...@gmail.com> >> >> You kind of get an idea of the complexity that builds up, after the >> hoops I jumped through to get the collapsible box template working, so >> I definitely think that we should have a very clear goal before >> proceeding any further with this. >> >> Frankly I still don't really understand why we need to import >> anything, at all. There are other options that don't create problems >> like templates, forks or obsolete data. >> >> We could simply have a shortlist of the articles, for example. We >> could make a list on our wiki, make some sort of category on >> Wikipedia, if that's permissible, or base it on an existing category. >> The Flagged Revisions system could be a tremendous help in future. We >> should also see how Wikipedia 1.0 is doing, and what their processes >> are. We don't really need to start from scratch. >> >> 2009/1/23 John Vandenberg <jay...@gmail.com>: >> > 2009/1/23 private musings <thepmacco...@gmail.com>: >> >> I hope that a small feasibility test might be considered part of the >> >> organising of such a project - ... >> > >> > Feasibility of what? To test feasibility, you need a clear idea of >> > what is expected or hoped for. >> > >> > Importing pages from en.wp is dependency hell. >> > >> > http://schools-wikipedia.org/ isnt a wiki; it is using software that >> > builds the pages from the wikipedia page. Perhaps we could ask them >> > what software they are using...? Veropedia has also developed similar >> > software; we could also ask them for tips, or use their infrastructure >> > by pushing pages through their review process and then saving their >> > generated HTML. >> > >> > -- >> > John Vandenberg >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Always here, >> Lloyd Nguyen >> zero1328 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > >
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