- a post-glam movement ;-)
Brianna Laugher brianna.laugher at <mailto:wikimediaau-l%40lists.wikimedia.org?Subject=%5BWikimediaau-l%5D%20sc hools%20-%20a%20post-glam%20movement%20%3B-%29&In-Reply-To=1e170f70090619152 8k66d63855vc1d43dc141e9e0d3%40mail.gmail.com> gmail.com Tue Jun 23 01:34:32 UTC 2009 Hi, I think there is a lot of scope for work we can do with the education sector. There is also some funding coming up/available that I would like to see us apply for. >>> That true. Could we consider the .gov.au sector as well. You may have read this; http://www.australianit.news.com.au/story/0,,25673234-15306,00.html The hub for this is here. http://www.katelundy.com.au/2009/05/29/public-sphere-2-open-government-polic y-and-practice/ You've only got to compare between edna and govdex to see what happens when old (sectorized) thinking dominates = duplicates. Seems like we're coming to the end of the 'tool wars' and beginning to see the start of the systemization the IP networks which have to pass the data. ================================================= What about "going where the teachers are"? Teachers and educators actually have an awful lot of tech infrastructure set up already. My guess is that we can have more impact by going to them rather than dragging them to us. e.g. the me.edu.au networks: http://me.edu.au/c/Wikis http://me.edu.au/c/Wikipedia >>>That was like a breath of fresh air. If you wanted to get your hands on some 'grown up' tools, (and you have an .edu.au in your email address) Try registering here. http://www.arcs.org.au/join_form?came_from=http%3A//www.arcs.org.au/forums/a nds You know I've been talking (on the community pages of me.edu.au) about using me.edu.au as an Single Sign On to various tools, whose 'front ends' are scattered around various web sites like this. We could use these ones for GLAMwiki (and pre and post) to support some distributed conferences in different localities (a la ABC's qanda). That also applies to conferences. What if we piggybacked on an existing event? <http://www.edna.edu.au/edna/go/events/conferences/cache/offonce;jsessionid= A27055CE9591E27E200CB229DA53AD8F> Either by formally asking the organisers to be part of their event, or just collocating in time and place. >>> I think this is a matter of what 'message(s)' this community wants to send. The tools (like wikis), after all, are just a means to ends. My suggestion would be to focus on principles. http://www.socialinclusion.gov.au/Principles/Pages/default.aspx How can we build up our internal strength in the area of public speaking for these kinds of events? I am afraid we are at risk of leaning on the same people constantly. Are people just not interested in speaking about Wikipedia et al? Or are they interested but not sure what to say, how to say it? >>> I think workshops are the way to go. You've only got to read Greg Black's (CEO of education.au) blog, as one dinosaur, thinks about being involved with the 'messy learning' approach. We're seeing the new dynamic grow legs now, down on Kate Lundy's blog, and nearby. http://groups.google.com.au/group/gov20canberra But we will need to start aggregating the tools and systemizing the community spaces. I also agree with Andrew's comment that we have a number of edu-focused people among us already and we should make sure we are getting their input before looking further afield. >>> Amen. So what tools do they need? And I do mean what tools do they need to be good citizens, not good teachers. cheers Brianna
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