That is called "framing the question". Of course *that* kind of participation would be unproblematic. But let's not forget the minutes, resolutions and official activities of the chapter are hosted there, along with our Statement of Purpose and etc. Like I said, as a non-profit organisation we have obligations both to the membership and to the registry (CAV in our case), and those who visit our site should be able to trust what they read as far as it pertains to our organisation and its activities.
2009/12/12 Peter Halasz <qub...@gmail.com> > You think that by opening the wiki up to users with autoconfirmed > email addresses, so that they might put themselves down as attending > an event, we are at risk of being "misrepresented" and "discredited"? > > I'm sorry I'm not bothering to participate in this conversation any longer. > > Peter Halasz > User:Pengo > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Andrew <orderinchao...@gmail.com> wrote: > > At the end of the day, and I think this is a point that isn't well > > understood because we have a foot on both sides of the border, this is > the > > official wiki for a non profit organisation. The wiki's set up in such a > way > > that those that are willing to support the aims of the organisation can > edit > > freely. I don't know of any other similar organisations which offer open > > editing or participation - one I know that runs meetings for its members > > (and this is just networking!) charges $10 for non-members to attend a > > meeting; another runs closed email lists that non-members can't even see. > > > > As for the argument re vandalism - that isn't even our biggest > prospective > > problem. The biggest is actually misrepresentation - the risk that we > will > > be discredited as an organisation in the eyes of those we seek to build > > partnerships with. In the relatively insular world of free culture, > edginess > > seems like a good thing, but in the real world, quite apart from our > legal > > and other obligations with CAV, we have to deal with businesses, large > > organisations, governments, NGOs and the like. We're competing for their > > attention with more professional outfits which can offer them something. > > We're asking them to give us something - which requires a standard of > > credibility and professionalism. If random chaos is unfolding on our > > official website (and that is what it is), we have a bit of a problem in > > that area. Expecting already busy committee members (and I'm not even > > speaking for myself here) to monitor the wiki in such circumstances is an > > imposition on them and a completely unnecessary one - what do we stand to > > benefit from it, as against the costs? > > > > cheers > > Andrew > > > > 2009/12/12 Peter Halasz <qub...@gmail.com> > >> > >> Sarah, > >> > >> The only actual reason you've given for not opening up the wiki to > >> non-members is because of fear of vandalism. > >> > >> Ok, so we have a problem: Potential vandalism. > >> > >> Solutions? > >> > >> 1. Actually observe actual vandalism before locking anything down. > >> 2. Assign a couple of people to patrolling recent changes once a week > >> 3. Locking individual pages when we require their integrity to be > >> preserved. > >> 4. Requiring wiki users to sign in > >> 5. Requiring new wiki users to wait 3 days before editing > >> 6. Banning everyone but paid members, who, after paying their > >> membership, can apply for an account, which, when it expires, is no > >> longer allowed to edit. > >> > >> C'mon, seriously? You went with #6? To combat vandalism? > >> > >> Although, as you say, we CAN keep the wiki locked up, why SHOULD we? > >> And why with such tight control? > >> > >> Peter Halasz. > >> User:Pengo > >> (Lapsed member) > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list > >> Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > Wikimediaau-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >
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