You should apply for a small grant for your photography, Bidgee (either to subsidise travel or for the flash you need).
On 5/5/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > I just signed up to this mail list yesterday (didn't know it had existed > until yesterday). > > I had photographed most of the Top End of the NT but lost 80% > (unrecoverable) of my photos during the move down south. > > When I returned back to NSW my aim was to cover as much cities, suburbs, > towns, villages and locality not just in NSW but other states and > territories. > > Locations in my local (within 15km) area have been covered by walking or > riding a push bike (yes it is possible) and other locations used coaches > (as I don't have a car nor license [I'll get one someday]) which has meant > I've needed to stay overnight and I pay out of my own pocket (My most > recent Canberra trip cost me $50 [return coach ticket], $120 for overnight > accommodation and $8.80 for an ACTION off-peak bus ticket [two days]) and I > plan the places to photograph and map them but even then you only cover 20% > in a day. > > In the next few weeks (sometime in June) I will be visiting Point Cook and > then it will be back to Canberra (date is yet to be set) but I'm hoping to > do a two or three day trip to Albury/Wodonga and Temora this year. > > There are so many importance and historic places (not just buildings, > statues, trees ect) that have only a few photographs or none at all over > Australia and the earthquake in Kalgoorlie-Boulder just proves that they > can be lost forever. Maybe we should look at forming groups to cover remote > areas and in areas no so remote area. I would even put out the challenge to > cover some areas by public transport and push bikes. ;) > > Robert > > On Wed, 5 May 2010 18:08:03 +0800, Andrew <[email protected]> > wrote: >> I'd like to pitch an idea regarding a possible grant application. >> >> One of the interesting things that came up in Berlin (both Sarah and I >> attended the Outreach Case Studies session where this was discussed) was >> the >> Wikiexpedition done by the Polish Wikipedia - I understand the Czechs > also >> undertook a similar thing and got a grant for it (which included petrol, >> accommodation and buying a camera), and I seem to remember Estonia and a >> few >> others talking along similar lines. >> >> I was talking with a WA volunteer today and one issue we have is that > some >> areas of our great country are hopelessly under-covered. Speaking from a > WA >> point of view, the Wheatbelt region immediately comes to mind, but I'm > sure >> anyone reading this can think of somewhere nearby (or at least within >> reach) >> which falls into this category. In the past, despite my > non-car-ownership, >> I've done what I can to address this, and two other Wikimedians, > Mattinbgn >> and Bidgee (Robert), have done tremendous work in getting photos of > things >> like town halls and other monuments in Victoria to illustrate our > articles >> and build up Commons. That shows what *individuals* can do with an >> appropriate plan. >> >> The Wikiexpedition was basically a bunch of volunteers with cars > (15-20?) >> who coordinated and were driving around taking photographs of basically >> anything that was of importance or interest. Being done over a set time >> with >> a specific deadline for completing the photo runs and uploading them to >> Commons maximised the value of the exercise. Having so many people >> available >> made it so much better than just having one, as they could split up and > do >> different things in the same town, for instance, or one could take the >> backroads and another could take the main road. The Polish dealt a lot > with >> local businesses, municipalities and tourist offices along the way so > were >> able to promote the cause somewhat as well to an entirely unexpected >> audience. >> >> Achievable, tick. Clear scope and measurable end points, tick. Engages > the >> membership, tick. Promotes Wikimedia, tick. Meets our statement of > purpose >> and the goals of WMF, tick. >> >> OK, it's a bit unconventional, but what do others think? >> >> >> On 5 May 2010 17:30, private musings <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> 'Grant applications are serious, not something that you submit just to >>> >>> engage with a process and there needs to be a properly thought through >>> application with an idea of who, what, when, where and how the >>> proposed project will be run' >>> - totally agree with this- and agree that it's a large stretch to try > and >>> get anything completed before the deadline - whether or not it's worth >>> trying is a different question, I guess :-) >>> 'I'd rather see us take the time to discuss possible ideas properly and >>> >>> get the details of any proposed projects members want to run nutted >>> out as carefully as possible before submitting applications' >>> - totally agree with this too - again, it does seem unlikely to be able >>> to >>> get this all done ahead of the deadline - I guess I wish discussions > and >>> activity had kicked off earlier - though that's largely down to us as a >>> membership - hopefully we can get the ball rolling anyways ahead of >>> future >>> grant applications etc. >>> >>> 'Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for >>> him to be globally banned' >>> - this is not accurate - Jimbo never called me a troll, nor did he call >>> for >>> me to be globally banned - please take greater care in raising comments >>> about me personally as oppose to my posts.... however; >>> 'PM is really not an appropriate person to lead the chapter in requests >>> to >>> the WMF for not-insignificant amounts of money' >>> - sure ;-) - as I mentioned I'd rather just try and help / chivvy / >>> expedite existing efforts - my concern is to make sure that something >>> happens - I'm concerned that we're heading for a pretty poor report > card >>> for >>> the first half of 2010, and would like to help avoid that :-) >>> cheers, >>> Peter, >>> PM. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Sarah Ewart <[email protected]> > wrote: >>> >>>> To be entirely frank, I would have to agree that given both the long >>>> term and recent "controversies" throughout WMF universe which >>>> culminated in Jimmy recently describing PM as a troll and calling for >>>> him to be globally banned, PM is really not an appropriate person to >>>> lead the chapter in requests to the WMF for not-insignificant amounts >>>> of money. However, I don't have a problem with him suggesting >>>> potential projects and then seeing how others feel about them and >>>> whether they gel with other projects people are currently involved in. >>>> >>>> I attended the session on grants at the chapters meeting in Berlin (my >>>> notes are up on the wiki here- >>>> >>>> > http://www.wikimedia.org.au//wiki/2010_chapters_meeting/Sarahs_notes#Working_group:_Volunteers >>>> ) >>>> and we discussed the final date for grant applications and Eric made >>>> it clear that while May 15 is listed as the deadline, it's more like a >>>> preferred date. If applications are in by then they'll be processed >>>> more quickly, but we're welcome to submit applications after that >>>> date. >>>> >>>> Last year we had to pay back a grant a chapter member requested for an >>>> outreach conference they wanted to run because it fell through and >>>> didn't end up going ahead. Paying back the funds was a real headache >>>> for the committee (especially for Brian as the then-treasurer) and it >>>> took a considerable amount of time to resolve with the foundation. I >>>> don't want to see this happen again so I'd oppose any moves to rush >>>> through any ill-considered applications just to get them in before May >>>> 15 or that seem more orientated on getting money for the sake of it or >>>> for the simple stated purpose of engaging with the grant process. >>>> Grant applications are serious, not something that you submit just to >>>> engage with a process and there needs to be a properly thought through >>>> application with an idea of who, what, when, where and how the >>>> proposed project will be run. If we have to pay back another grant, >>>> it's going to reflect very poorly on the chapter so this isn't >>>> something that should just be slapped together at the last minute. >>>> >>>> I'd rather see us take the time to discuss possible ideas properly and >>>> get the details of any proposed projects members want to run nutted >>>> out as carefully as possible before submitting applications. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/5/10, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > Hi, >>>> > >>>> > I'll be straight up and state I'm not going to support this, for a >>>> variety >>>> > of reasons. >>>> > >>>> > Firstly, I don't think our chapter is capable of producing a grant >>>> > application to the standard WMF require for such a big area >>>> > (education) >>>> in >>>> > 10 days that addresses all the things WMF expect us to address. >>>> > >>>> > Secondly, this appears to be trying to reinvent the wheel. Craig's >>>> project >>>> > up in Brisbane is already making significant advances, at least > three >>>> other >>>> > chapter members have made contacts with (or have been contacted by) >>>> > educational departments and representative associations, and > completed >>>> > resources already in use in schools exist in other languages from >>>> > other >>>> > chapters - I'm presently trying to secure translations of these on >>>> behalf of >>>> > the chapter. Without any attempt to coordinate the various > approaches, >>>> we're >>>> > not only less effective but also give the outward appearance of > being >>>> > disorganised to the various educational bodies involved. >>>> > >>>> > Thirdly, given your recent conflict with, among other people, Jimbo >>>> Wales >>>> > and various concerns about past occasions when you have undertaken >>>> chapter >>>> > work (in particular the Dictionary of Sydney episode), I do not > think >>>> you >>>> > personally should be making any outward representation of our > chapter >>>> and, >>>> > if the grant were to be approved, I think someone else should lead > it. >>>> > >>>> > kindest regards >>>> > Andrew >>>> > >>>> > On 5 May 2010 11:46, private musings <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> G'day all, >>>> >> >>>> >> does the chapter have any grants proposals heading in this year? >>>> >> >>>> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index >>>> >> >>>> >> Do we have any structure for creating / supporting a chapter grant >>>> >> like >>>> >> this? >>>> >> >>>> >> I have a few ideas and opportunities - for wiki use in education, >>>> >> hopefully >>>> >> in partnership with nsw dep. of ed. - if I write something up in > the >>>> next >>>> >> week or so, I suppose we could discuss it on our wiki, and forward > it >>>> to >>>> >> the >>>> >> grants page linked above for consideration if appropriate? >>>> >> >>>> >> I think it's important for a functioning healthy chapter to try to >>>> engage >>>> >> with processes like this, so if you too have any ideas or >>>> opportunities, >>>> >> please do pipe up, and let's work on them on the wiki, and get them >>>> going >>>> >> :-) >>>> >> >>>> >> cheers, >>>> >> >>>> >> Peter, >>>> >> PM. >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>>> >> [email protected] >>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaau-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaau-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l > _______________________________________________ Wikimediaau-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaau-l
