Le 10/06/2013 14:41, Hartwig Thomas a écrit :
> I believe that such a "precise list" is an illusion.
>
> The servers as well as the legal bodies are in the US and thus are subject to
> US law.
> Therefore the operators of these servers will do anything the law requires
> them to do, just as an operator ("provider") in Switzerland would have to
> follow the Swiss laws (BÜPF, Nachrichtendienst-Gesetz, ...). The US law does
> not - like the Swiss or European privacy laws - require these operators to
> reveal to the person whose data are stored, how they are used or to whom they
> are given. Quite the contrary some of these US laws require the operators to
> keep this kind of information secret. It is unreasonable to believe, that
> Wikimedia Foundation would break such US laws, just because some Europeans
> have a different idea of privacy.
>
> Besides the Internet technology is "open". So the operators of these "cloud"
> servers have absolutely no control over the path any TCP/IP package takes
> between here and their server. So even if they did give us a "precise list",
> it would be worth nothing, because the eavesdropping can take place one step
> removed from these servers.
>
> So if you want European style privacy - and if you believe in its honest
> reinforcement in Europe or in Switzerland - then you should not store your
> data on a server in the US or encrypt it. If, however, the data are public
> anyway, as is the case with most Wikimedia content, then this kind of privacy
> is not a concern. The main risk I see in this more realistic scenario, is
> that the US government might "arrest" such data and delete them or make them
> otherwise inaccessible. Therefore it is certainly useful, if the
> publicdomainproject keeps a copy of its data on Wikimedia Commons on some
> European server as a backup.
My request is specifically targeted to WMCH, our swiss chapter, not to
any other entity of our movement.
Emmanuel
_______________________________________________
http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website
Wikimediach-l mailing list
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l
