Dear all, Emmanuel's remarks are not so obvious. Is there a strong motivation to force holding free content on a free support ? And if the answer is "yes", what is it ? How to understand this section: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Project_scope#Must_be_an_allowable_free_file_format ? In my opinion it sounds very hypocrite as every photosensor back-end stage transforms the captured light in a proprietary format and only a software processing transforms this proprietary format into a free format (this software may be embedded in the light capture device, such a camera and this step appears to be transparent) (this is the same for sound).
Thus, content (from an abstract point of view) remains the same. Also my question is : what does it change to impute responsability to the user to transform the support format of its file into a free format or to perform this transformation directly on the host repository (in the present case Commons) ? In both case, input, output and processing are the same, only changes the place where it is performed. Finally, has the possibility to store free content in a non-free format, allowing a wider sharing of knowledge, been considered ? And I don't understand why it may have a problem for kiwix. If it is not possible to integrate non-free formats, why not simply modify them during the acquisition process ? Regards, Gilbert 2014/1/16 Manuel Schneider <manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch> > Am 16.01.2014 16:10, schrieb Hartwig Thomas: > > MP4 is not proprietary as such – only some codecs are. > > Right. > > MP4 is a container format, such as AVI, MOV, OGG or WebM. > > That's why I am talking in my explanation about MP4 / H.264 or just > H.264 - which is the problematic codec. > > When we talk about Wikimedia Commons and video, Ogg means Ogg/Theora and > WebM means VP8, the two free (as in speech) video codecs we are > accepting at the moment. > H.264 is for individual users also free but as in beer, not speech. And > that is the core of the discussion. > > > /Manuel > -- > Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens > Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch > > _______________________________________________ > http://wikimedia.ch Wikimedia CH website > Wikimediach-l mailing list > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediach-l > -- Gilbert Conus Ch. de la Villaire 14b CH-1040 Échallens +4178 839 5973
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