Can we stop pretending that duct tape is the best thing out there ? It’s great as patch-up material and as an arts project you can probably build a house out of it you really tried, but that doesn’t make it a good building material for a 60 story office building.
DJ, Let’s naturalize a few aliens, so we have more first class citizens > On 7 apr. 2015, at 05:04, jay...@gmail.com wrote: > > If public 'lists' were serialised as real pages (true first class citizens) > all the usual functions would work, and if they were serialised as > wikitext, those pages would look remarkably like existing Collections. > > On Sun, 5 Apr 2015 02:37 Brian Wolff <bawo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Oh look, we go full circle ;) >> >> ---- >> >> I haven't checked but given its implemented as a special page i doubt >> Risker's cu concerns are addressed. Edits to lists do not appear in >> contribs on beta site. >> >> --bawolff >> >> On Apr 4, 2015 11:15 AM, "Kevin Wayne Williams" <kwwilli...@kwwilliams.com >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> I hereby nominate "collections". Describes it well and, at least to my >> ear, helps convey a bit of the notion that it's a personal thing. >>> KWW >>> >>> Risker schreef op 2015/04/04 om 8:08: >>> >>>> Hi Jon - >>>> >>>> These look interesting, and I'm sure some people will enjoy them a lot. >>>> From my perspective as a oversighter and checkuser, as long as I'm able >> to >>>> suppress information on the page, and the "edits" to the page show up in >>>> the contributions tables that are available for checkusers for review, >> I'm >>>> perfectly fine with these "pages". (Note - I've already thought of >>>> multiple reasons that we'd wind up needing to suppress information on >> these >>>> pages, not to mention half a dozen ways that the pages could be used >>>> inappropriately that could lead to checkusering -- just like any other >> page >>>> on Wikipedia. They don't need a different level of scrutiny, just the >> same >>>> level as everywhere else.) Admins being able to delete the page isn't >>>> enough, so please ensure that these are fully tested. I'll be happy to >>>> work with you on that. >>>> >>>> On the other hand, I think it would be a net positive if everyone stops >>>> calling these pages "lists". Lists are a specific type of content that >> has >>>> existed on Wikipedia practically since its inception; projects have >>>> guidelines and sometimes even policies on their creation, use and >> format. >>>> Thousands of users have had their own personal lists in their userspace >> for >>>> pretty much the entire history of the project, too. Thus, the subject >> line >>>> of this thread is inaccurate: Lists have pretty much always been first >>>> class citizens on Wikipedia projects. This new extension does not create >>>> lists in the Wikipedia sense, it creates a collection of article >>>> thumbnails. Calling these new "pages" lists as well, even if just >> talking >>>> in the vernacular, will be confusing. >>>> >>>> So...please give some further thought to what to call these pages that >>>> doesn't use a term that is already well-understood to mean something >>>> entirely different. From my perspective, the idea (and the execution) >> is >>>> fine. >>>> >>>> RIsker/Anne >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikitech-l mailing list >>> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikitech-l mailing list >> Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
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