Banning of known contributors is not an issue to be hidden away. Sadly it becomes a technical issue when contributors are being banned, as their work and what they did does effect others. The issue cannot be seperated. Looking through their history, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/MZMcBride/ As far as I can tell this is admin overreach, the kind that mediawiki is well known for in the development community. I see a lot of productivity and focus upon issues, not any attacking of others. I would have hoped from previous events that the environment would have gotten better, but yet again I see a CoC being used as an excuse for over sensitivity and censorship of discussion. The original actions MZM was responding to are being ignored, while he is being banned for his response to it, which doesn't actually attack anyone at all. The message of a CoC is supposed to be one of 'be nice and have good discussions and do the right thing'. Which is being violated by the very enforcers of it. If known contributors are banned for simply saying 'WTF', then Ladsgroup also should be banned for enforcing the CoC out of their personal feelings, and not one of doing the right thing. The correct response to unproductive comments is to simply delete them, and/or message the author about it. If they're actually spamming them, then that's a spam issue not a CoC issue. If they attack someone, then that's a CoC issue. I don't see that here.
I find it very counter productive to any public organization to hide way bans and reasons for them if the actions the user did was public. That leaves the decisions in the dark to everyone else. This is a development space, and I expect far better from those who have power of it. On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 9:11 AM Mukunda Modell <[email protected]> wrote: > Do you have any suggestions of what would be a more appropriate forum? > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:23 AM Dan Garry <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 8 August 2018 at 13:53, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Ah, I found the e-mail: […] > > > > > > > This mailing list is not an appropriate forum for airing your grievances > > with the way the Code of Conduct Committee has handled this matter. > > > > Dan > > > > -- > > Dan Garry > > Lead Product Manager, Editing > > Wikimedia Foundation > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikitech-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
