Well, let's put it this way. If you go buy a ticket to a concert which is
months away, what do you think you will feel if that concert keeps getting
pushed back a month or so, each time it comes up to the date that they set
the last time? Pretty crappy I'm sure, some people might not even go
because it screws their time schedules up, etc. Now here's the thing we
face when any company, not just Netraverse can't hit their mark.
1. People make decisions on timeframes set by others, be it a company,
individual, or other.
2. People make purchasing choices based on support, upgrades, and time to
market.(This is performance and execution)
3. People tend to get testy with MS junk that doesn't run properly cause
they have to find a work around because their whole company isn't off it
yet, and the dates for new releases of software they use which will not
only enhance their interoperability with the rest of the company, but will
possibly make them 'feel' more productive in general.
4. The last one, people like to remain current with the latest releases of
Linux kernels and other software, be it on an MS only platform or other
platforms, people like to remain current. Slips in time schedules means
they may not be allowed to remain current and therefore feel as thouth
they may be missing out on something they could really use.
These things may seem petty, but when you look at them as a whole, it's a
whole lot of frustration. I personally haven't been runing win4lin for
months because I simply refuse to NOT use a 2.4.x kernel. There are far
too many benefits to using a 2.4.x kernel in MY production mode for what I
do. Not to mention, runing RH 7.1 + XFS is pretty kick ass, and I like to
try new things. So, I personally blow my system away every few months, and
start over. (Except for my own apps and homedir). I got so frustrated with
mis-set expectations I stopped using ALL things microsoft. I still support
Netraverse in their endeavours and remain faithful and hopeful, but
that doesn't mean I'm not frustrated at the same time. I've got a whole
group of developers and others in the company waiting on Win4Lin 3.0 at my
request, cause NOTHING else sounds intelligent right now. No flames
please, I won't respond to flames.
--
Austin Gonyou
Systems Architect, CCNA
Coremetrics, Inc.
Phone: 512-796-9023
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 22 May 2001, Jose Mirles wrote:
> Dude
>
> No one said you complained about the pricing. I said that was the major
> complaint. read the back posts here in this list. People were
> complaining about paying an upgrade fee from version 1 to get version 3.
> They were quite worked up about it.
>
> Now, it's where is it? As soon as the 14th of May rolled around, the
> posts started. Now I agree that Netraverse should post something even if
> it is a change to "sometime this summer" But read the posts in here.
> It's like folks will die if they don't get an update or something.
>
>
> Joe Menola wrote:
>
> > Me thinks you should read more carefully :)
> > I never complained about pricing, nor has anyone said "I want it now"!
> > Netraverse is the one who claimed delivery, all we're asking is where is it.
> > We based descions on their claims (which is the only logical reason for them
> > to make such a claim anyway). If they needed a 3 month window, fine. They
> > shouldn't have used a term like "mid May".
> > And they should at least update us as to what to expect, not that any one
> > would/should put much weight into those statements now.
> >
> > -jm
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jose
> > Mirles
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 6:21 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Win4Lin-users] Win4Lin 3.0 - where?
> >
> >
> > First everyone was complaining about the pricing, now it's "I want it
> > now!" That's why they should stick to time frames like second quarter
> > 2001, gives them a full three months.
> >
> > I am sure that they will have the products out whenever it is available.
> > For all we know, they may have distribution problems, packaging problems
> > or financial problems ands are ready to fold.
> >
> >
> > Joe Menola wrote:
> >
> >> Some of us may be running out of time and forced to purchase another
> >
> > product
> >
> >> that supports 2.4 kernels. And then there are those of us that like to
> >
> > think
> >
> >> we can believe what we read. :)
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael L
> >> Torrie
> >> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:15 PM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Re: [Win4Lin-users] Win4Lin 3.0 - where?
> >>
> >>
> >> It's pretty odd that we who subscribe to the "project will be released
> >> when it's ready" philosophy are so impatient! I do anxiously await
> >> win4lin 3.0. I expect it by the beginning of june, myself.
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, 22 May 2001, Peter Ruskin wrote:
> >>
> >>> Quote from www.netraverse.com:
> >>> "Win4Lin 3.0 will be available from the NeTraverse Web site
> >>> (www.netraverse.com) and in stores by mid-May"
> >>> Where is it?
> >>>
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