Austin Gonyou wrote:

> Well, let's put it this way. If you go buy a ticket to a concert which is
> months away, what do you think you will feel if that concert keeps getting
> pushed back a month or so, each time it comes up to the date that they set
> the last time? Pretty crappy I'm sure, some people might not even go
> because it screws their time schedules up, etc. Now here's the thing we
> face when any company, not just Netraverse can't hit their mark.

Coding an application that will permit you to run an OS with another is 
quite a bit
more complex than hosting a concert, don't think? I get your point, but 
if the application is not ready, then it is not ready.

> 
> 1. People make decisions on timeframes set by others, be it a company,
> individual, or other.

That is why I really don't think software companies should use specfic 
timeframes. Tho it is hated, it would have been far better for 
Netraverse to say that Version 3 will ship sometime this summer. Of 
course, everyone would start posting inquiries on June 21st...

> 
> 2. People make purchasing choices based on support, upgrades, and time to
> market.(This is performance and execution)

They also make purchasing decisions on the reliability of the product. 
If holding it back a couple of weeks will save me from downloading a ton 
of updates ala Redhat 7.0/7.1, then hold it a couple of weeks and get it 
right.

> 
> 3. People tend to get testy with MS junk that doesn't run properly cause
> they have to find a work around because their whole company isn't off it
> yet, and the dates for new releases of software they use which will not
> only enhance their interoperability with the rest of the company, but will
> possibly make them 'feel' more productive in general.

And people were pushing MS to sell their stuff before it was ready and 
see what they got!

> 
> 4. The last one, people like to remain current with the latest releases of
> Linux kernels and other software, be it on an MS only platform or other
> platforms, people like to remain current. Slips in time schedules means
> they may not be allowed to remain current and therefore feel as thouth
> they may be missing out on something they could really use.

Not really. Some people want the latest right now so they can go around 
saying "look at what I got!" Others like myself, want testing done 
before jumping off a working system. The problem so many Windows users 
had when jumping to Linux was that they didn't do their homework first. 
The same rule applies to new versions. All OSes that are x.0 are bound 
to have problems. Mandrake 7.0 had thiers as did Redhat 7.0 (and how on 
that one!). So jumping to a new version of an OS because you "think" you 
are missing something is not only crazy, it just plain doesn't make 
sense. If peole want to remain current, they can, but to expect software 
vendors, like Netraverse, to keep up with all of the kernel changes, 
that's nuts. They'll get there, but before they release a product, I 
expect it to be damn good!

> These things may seem petty, but when you look at them as a whole, it's a
> whole lot of frustration. I personally haven't been runing win4lin for
> months because I simply refuse to NOT use a 2.4.x kernel. There are far
> too many benefits to using a 2.4.x kernel in MY production mode for what I
> do. Not to mention, runing RH 7.1 + XFS is pretty kick ass, and I like to
> try new things. So, I personally blow my system away every few months, and
> start over. (Except for my own apps and homedir). I got so frustrated with
> mis-set expectations I stopped using ALL things microsoft. I still support
> Netraverse in their endeavours and remain faithful and hopeful, but
> that doesn't mean I'm not frustrated at the same time. I've got a whole
> group of developers and others in the company waiting on Win4Lin 3.0 at my
> request, cause NOTHING else sounds intelligent right now. No flames
> please, I won't respond to flames.

You are the type of person that likes the latest stuff. There is nothing 
wrong with that. It is becasue of people like you that stuff gets 
corrected so fast, so by all means, jump on the latest stuff. People 
like me like stuff that people like you have tweak to the utmost and got 
bored with. But for me it's tested and well documented. I guess it is 
the way you look at it. Maybe if I knew more about Linux in general, I 
may take the plunge faster on newer stuff. Actually I did on Redhat 7.0 
and well, I went back to Mandrake 7.2 That will teach me!



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