So how is that easier that just "cd /usr/src/linux;patch -p1
</path/to/patch" ?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jens Benecke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 10:31 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Win4Lin-users] Finally patched my Mandrake 8.0 & what I
> was doing wrong
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 08:12:22PM -0700, Darb wrote:
> 
> > Heh, I am shocked that Debian has an easy road for the 
> kernel.  Last time
> 
> In Debian, there is almost always an 'easier' method for 
> things. There is
> also a standardized way of applying kernel patches in _any_ 
> kernel, whether
> it is a .deb or not. What I do is 
> 
>       cd /usr/src/linux
>       export MODULE_LOC=/usr/src/modules
>       make-kpkg  --revision jb1 modules
> 
> and I get a .deb file for each directory underneath 
> $MODULE_LOC containing
> sources for kernel modules. Those sources also come 
> preconfigured in .deb
> files, if not you can put them there yourself.
> 
> e.g. here it is /usr/src/modules/alsa, /usr/src/modules/alsa-0.9beta4,
> /usr/src/modules/lvm-0.9beta7/, etc. For each of those dirs I 
> get a Debian
> Package that fits the currently running kernel and - if it 
> was installed
> via make-kpkg as well - sets dependencies on it. I can 
> install those .deb
> files on ANY machine (same architecture, of course), I can 
> even (!) install
> e.g. alsa-0.5 and alsa-0.9beta4 driver AT THE SAME TIME and switch via
> starting/stopping init scripts.
> 
> 
> To summarize, Debian is not as "pretty" as the more popular 
> distros, but
> the packages are better preconfigured and generally I get the 
> feeling more
> thought has been put into their creation.
> 
> See www.jensbenecke.de/debian-vorteile.txt for more Debian propaganda.
>       
> 
> > I tried debian (2 or 3 years ago) it was a nightmare to 
> install.  Worse
> 
> It doesn't try to imitate Windows, that's what you probably 
> meant. You'll
> know what Debian is worth as soon as you 'want more', e.g. 
> run gcc 2.7.2,
> 2.95, and 3.0 at the same time, or run XFree 3.x and 4.0 at 
> the same time,
> or you need to organize a couple hundred Perl modules, etc.
> 
> > than Slackware in the days of the kernel 0.99pl13.  I'm 
> glad they do,
> > though, for those that want it.
> 
> Debian is just about exactly the opposite to Slackware. 
> Slackware doesn't
> really have a package manager. You install tar.gz files and that's it.
> Debian's package management however is a LOT more detailed, 
> sorted out and
> organized than any RPM based system I know.
> 
> That is necessary, as the current developer version of Debian 
> reaches 6000
> packages IN THE BASE SYSTEM. That's four CDs of software, binary only.
>  
> > Myself, I like the various levels of compiling my kernel.  
> It allows me
> 
> Myself, I was tired of having to keep track of 12 different 
> kernels with
> 120 different patches on 12 different machines in our LAN. 
> 
> Now I have 2 kernel trees, when I need an update I unpack the kernel
> tar.gz, split it in two dirs, run the patch_kernel script 
> (another Debian
> only feature - automagically apply and revert patches to a 
> specific kernel)
> for each of them and create .deb files. 
> 
> And I have 2 kernel trees only because some of the server vs. 
> workstation
> patches conflict. 
> 
> > to watch the various stages and get involved.  In these days of RPM
> > packages, I like to flex my memory and remember how to 
> patch, configure
> > and compile.  Even occasionaly come up with my own quick 
> fixes for things
> > sometimes.
> 
> Sure. But I don't have the time to do it all manually. 
> Updating a machine's
> kernel from six time zones away is somewhat exciting, however. ;)
> 
> -- 
> Jens Benecke     No Linux user has a 'Microsoft free system'. 
> 'make config'
>                  in the kernel configuration was originally 
> written by a MS
>                employee.
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