From: "Jens Benecke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Win4Lin-users] Finally patched my Mandrake 8.0 & what I was
doing wrong
Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 12:22 PM

On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 10:25:14AM -0400, Michael Leone wrote:

> Well, just to nitpick a little ... if you create a program in such a way
> that it requires many dependencies to run, then yes - you will get a
> bigger system, since you will now need that many more files on your

>No. The dependancies to libraries etc. are needed in any case. The
>alternative to many dependancies is linking statically, and THAT would
>require MUCH more space in the long term.

You misunderstand my point. The dependencies do NOT have to be automatically
need "in any case". They are needed because the software you're using was
written in such a way that it needs those libraries. If the software was
re-written to NOT need the function the libraries provide (a change of
program design), then - in this case - the dependencies increase the size of
your system (which was the original point of this conversation).

If your program makes a call to some library THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY INSTALLED
on your system, then obviously installing that program (AND it's dependency)
will make your system bigger than it would have been if the program had been
written to NOT use a library function that didn't exist on your system.

It's not likely, but as I said - it's a nitpick.

> system to get this application to run. This is not necessarily bloating,
> tho.  Bloating would indicate UNNECESSARY dependencies (your definition
> of "unneccessary" may differ) to get the job done.

>Well, then answer me ... do you for example prefer

Again, you misunderstand. Take for example, the "pivot table" function of
some spreadsheets. The number of users who actually utilize this feaure is
very small. If you removed this feature from your spreadsheet program, the
program size would go down, and you might perhaps need one less module to be
installed on your system . Thus saving space.

>I much prefer installing 30 additional 50k packages for one package to run,
>than having to install one or two 10 MB packages, probably even statically
>linked.

I'd prefer software that was written lean enough so that it did not
automatically need 30 packages to run (perhaps 15 of which I do not already
have).

If not, then I (and other sane people) would prefer it your way. :-)



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