[Winona Online Democracy] Re: Stockton Hill
Stockton Hill is dangerous. Shifting traffic to 43 and then 61 to Pelzer would, however, simply be shifting a problem elsewhere. The long grade on 43 and its intersection with Mankato at the heavily traveled middle school route would create new dangers if truck traffic were heavier. Moreover, heavier truck traffic on Highway 61 would hardly contribute to overall traffic safety in Winona. Probably the primary solution for the Stockton Hill problem would be lower speed limits, although these themselves could create a different set of dangers. No matter what is done, the increasing number of structures in the Knopp Valley-Gilmore Valley area will simply increase hazards. (Perhaps approval of Jake brakes could serve a useful dual purpose: quicker stops and discouragement of living in the area.) Roy Nasstrom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Severson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Craig Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Winona On-Line Democracy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 11:33 AM Subject: RE: FW: [Winona] Traffic Control on Highway 14 > [Winona Online Democracy] > > The DOT District engineer at Rochester once told me we can make all the > roads safer> Just keep the vehicles off them. In essence I have no > problem with rerouting the trucks, but unless we change the people pulling > out in front of a 80,000 pound truck and expecting them to stop or yield to > them, we are only moving the accident location. Due to problems with > trucks stopping we should require Jake Brakes be used in the city rather > than not allowing their use. > > Tom O. Severson > 265 E. Mark > Box 736 > Winona, Mn. 55987 > 507 452 3402 ext 214 Direct > 452 4743 Office Switchboard > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Craig Brooks > Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 10:29 AM > To: Winona On-Line Democracy > Subject: Re: FW: [Winona] Traffic Control on Highway 14 > > > [Winona Online Democracy] > > I know it is shorter. I just wish the State would ban > big trucks from Stockton Hill and thus force them to > come in via 43 to 61 to Pelzer to the harbor. > Craig Brooks > > --- Paul Double <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Winona Online Democracy] > > > > > The distance is shorter and it saves time exiting > > I90 at Lewiston and then > > taking 14 into the commercial harbor. > > > > Paul Double > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of John N. Finn > > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 7:43 AM > > To: WOD > > Subject: Re: [Winona] Traffic Control on Highway 14 > > > > > > [Winona Online Democracy] > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Craig Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "WOD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: 19 juin, 2004 06:44 > > Subject: [Winona] Traffic Control on Highway 14 > > > > > > > [Winona Online Democracy] > > > > > > There have been many letters to the editor > > regarding the intersection > > >by Knopp Valley, 14 and County Road 21 (Gilmore > > Valley Road). > > >......... I don't know why big trucks need to use > > 14 to get into and > > >out of > > Winona > > > when 43 is the main truck route. .......... And, > > why can't the State > > > make the Stockton Hill portion of 14 off limits to > > big trucks? > > > > > > > The reconstruction of Pelzer with a new bridge over > > the railroad is based on > > the assumption that 14 will continue to be the > > primary truck route to the > > barge harbor. I think it's way past time to change > > things now. > > > > BTW: There is no provision for bicycle travel > > through the Riverview Drive > > and Theurer intersection which is on the so-called > > main east-west bicycle > > route. Painting bike symbols on the shoulder of a > > street when that shoulder > > disappears at intersections might be acceptable in > > town, but not when > > traffic is moving at highway speeds, especially when > > the shoulder is used as > > a passing lane as is the case on Riverview Drive. Of > > course, integrating > > bicycles into a high speed intersection is a > > challenge, so it's just not > > being attempted. > > > > Our Mayor likes to officiate at bicycle event > > podiums, and the CVB tries to > > pass Winona off as a bicycle destination, but except > > for the recreational > > path around the lake and the Gilmore Creek bridge, > > there is minimal planning > > for bicycles as transportation. For instance: no > > bicycle access to the > > middle school. A dedicated path separate from > > highways could link Goodview's > > LaCain Park with our downtown riverfront and Prairie > > Island campground and > > also serve as a bicycle commuting route. Our local > > truck driver/riverfront > > developer got the city to lengthen the planned > > Pelzer bridge to accommodate > > his future projects, but bicycling understandably > > lacks such clout. 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