I agree that the technical portion of his request is on topic and in the
interest of the list. I have been enjoying some fine conversation off
list with many folks and taking everything offline from now on out of
respect for the list. Enrique; Thanks for the tips but I've been around
the war'whatever' block a few times. Again, I agree with the technical
portions.

BN


----- Original Message -----
From: "Enrique LaRoche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bill Northrup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [BAWUG] Stop the Wardriving ... Wirelessly!


> >I disagree, he is spamming. In my opinion, his subject matter is
> >disgusting. He might as well be talking about the wireless trading of
> >kiddie porn. I don't find the condoning the killing of innocent
American
> >lives civil or germane either.
>
> Your Opinion is appreciated. However the subject is Germaine since it
is a
> common problem and a common interest to learn how to conduct a site
survey,
> It is educational and certainly enhances the understanding of wireless
> networks and communication to have the practical ability to establish
a
> instant network.
> While you may not like this cause, you may someday depend upon the
knowlege
> gained by people like them. Another real potential use for the
knowlege
> gained is in a disaster situation. Earthquake in particular.
> Theses skills gained may allow someone to communicate critical
information
> in a disaster.
>
> I recommend you.
> Look for "Wardriving" when you get the right equipment to do that, you
can
> designate a few of your participants to scan the area once you know
the
> location.
> This means getting a card like Orinoco gold, and an (optional)external
> antenna  and simply going to the site and logging the AP's found. Then
you
> map those sites for future use. Another Keyword is "warchalking" this
would
> seem the best approach for your Idea.
> Use a decent search engine for background look to the list (BAWUG)
archives
> for details.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Stop the War ... Wirelessly!
>
>
> >
> > Steve Freedkin's message concerning ProgressivePortal.org pertains
to
> > wireless in the Bay Area.  Wishing someone were aboard a doomed
> airliner
> > does not. I prefer, as a list subscriber, that the messages are
civil
> > and germane.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 03:49:06PM -0700, Bill Northrup wrote:
> > > I wish you and your SPAM were on a particular jetliner. Instead of
> being
> > > some nay saying sissy pants, how about you going over there and
hook
> > > them up via wireless and give them a big hug and say sorry for
> putting
> > > buildings in the way of hijacked aircraft. Why don't you spend
some
> time
> > > defending the freedom that you seem to enjoy.
> > >
> > > Grow up and get a job.
> > >
> > > BN
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve Freedkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 2:55 PM
> > > Subject: [BAWUG] Stop the War ... Wirelessly!
> > >
> > >
> > > > ProgressivePortal.org is an online activist Web site
> > > > through which users have sent more than 2.3 million
> > > > messages since May 2001, and more than 645,000
> > > > opposing attacking Iraq since Sept. 24, 2002.
> > > >
> > > > We want to set up computers that are wirelessly
> > > > connected to the Internet to enable people to send
> > > > letters immediately from demonstrations, on street
> > > > corners, etc.
> > > >
> > > > We have three needs:
> > > >
> > > > (1) Someone who is tech savvy who can volunteer the
> > > > time to set up wireless connectivity for our computers
> > > > (currently we plan to use Mac notebooks, but PC
> > > > notebooks would also be okay). Currently, we need this
> > > > for locations in San Francisco, but would like to
> > > > eventually be able to take the show elsewhere. We have
> > > > a Sprint PCS account that can be used, but it will get
> > > > very expensive very fast, so other wireless options
> > > > are also needed.
> > > >
> > > > (2) Someone who can repair Apple PowerBooks -- we have
> > > > two computers that are broken, and standard repair
> > > > shops would charge more than the cost of replacing
> > > > them
> > > >
> > > > (3) Sources for obtaining additional donated or
> > > > inexpensive portable computers (Mac preferred)
> > > >
> > > > To see our site, visit
> > > > http://www.progressiveportal.org
> > > >
> > > > If you are interested in helping or have suggestions,
> > > > I hope to hear from you.
> > > >
> > > > Peace,
> > > >
> > > > Steve Freedkin
> > > > Publisher
> > > > ProgressivePortal.org
> > > > sfreedkin-AT-yahoo.com (replace "-AT-" with "@")
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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